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uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 5:01 AM / IP Logged  
HI,
I have installed Python 594 in 2006 Nissan Murano everything about alarm is working fine.
Problem is remote start, connections:
H3/1 Pink-Ingnition1 Input output-wire to Ignition wire
H3/2 RED / White to 12V constant
H3/3 Orange Accessory output to ACC 1
H3/4 Violet to Car side of starter 1
H3/5 Green to key side of starter 1
H3/7 Pink/White Ignition2/flex relay output I used for Starter 2 programed in Python menu
H3/8 Pink/Black +Flex Relay input-Not used
H3/9 RED / Black Fused 30A Acc/starter input 12V constant
ACC2 I have used relay
Car does not want to start only ACC2 there is no ignition no cranking
H3/6 Red fused 30A ignition input?? I try to connect it to 12V constant but Python(relay inside) start to make noise and dash is blinking????
What did I do wrong?
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 6:45 AM / IP Logged  

Not sure.  Did you use a DMM to verify the Starter1 vs the Ignition1 wires at the ignition switch harness?  Here is the H3 wiring :

H3/1 Pink-Ingnition1 Input output    BLACK/ Red (+)  @ ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 3  

H3/2 RED / White     Green (40A)  (+)   @  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 1
H3/3 Orange Accessory output       Red (+)  @ ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 4
H3/4 Violet     Car side        BLACK/ Red (+)  @ ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 5
H3/5 Green    Switch side   BLACK/ Red (+)  @ ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 5
H3/6 Red fused 30A ignition input   Green (40A)  (+)   @  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 1
H3/7 Pink/White Flex relay ***Set to ACC2***          BLACK / YELLOW  +  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 6
H3/8 Pink/Black +Flex Relay input- Not used
H3/9 RED / Black Fused 30A Acc/starter input           Green (40A)  (+)   @  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 1    

Relay for ACC2

Relay Pin 85 to Python 594 thin Orange (-) 200mA Accessory Output
Relay Pin 86 and 87 to Murano Green (40A)  (+)   @  ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 1, thru 20 Amp fuse
Relay Pin 30 to Murano WHITE/ Blue (+)  @ ignition switch, white 6 pin plug, pin 2 

Be arawe that there are two BLACK/ Red wires at the ignition switch harness.  You must use a DMM and reference the plug

pin-outs to ensure connections to the correct wire. 

Soldering is fun!
uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 7:29 AM / IP Logged  
Hi
thank you for fast reply, I will use dmm.
Ignition should have 12v when key is in on pos.
Starter only when cranking?
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 7:42 AM / IP Logged  
Yes.  DMM set to 20V DC, Black test lead to chassis ground and Red test lead to suspect wire.
Ignition wire should show +12V at ON and START positions.
Starter wires should show +12V in START position only.
Soldering is fun!
uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 8:01 AM / IP Logged  
Hi
I have relay for acc2 connected to -200mA
status output on Python is this ok?
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 8:10 AM / IP Logged  
Not really, assuming it's wired like the relay above and instead of (-) ACC at Pin 85 you connected (-) Status.  (-) Status Output comes on a second before Ignition output and does not drop out during cranking.  It would be better to wire it up exactly as shown above.  The Python has the (-) Accessory Output wire right there all ready to go, might as well use it.
Soldering is fun!
uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 8:16 AM / IP Logged  
I have tested wires with dmm, they are wired corecctly.
Starter has 12v only during cranking, Ignition has 12v in on and when running.
I have no Idea what to check further.
I dont know why H3/6 wire when coneccted to 12v constant causes relay humim and cluster light bliks like in low battery but car start normaly with key.
Also I have tried if I press remote start and connect ignition wire and H3/6 to 12v at that time
and hold connected car start normal.
Strange.
uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 8:52 AM / IP Logged  
Hi
i have change wires on relay like you said but still
same only radio turns on and off and two way remote says Low Battery in car
uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM / IP Logged  
I have recheck all wires again, first how do you know you have 2 acc wires, my first acc wire shows 12v in on and running position (is it possible that my murano has two ignition wires?), my so called second is showing 12v in acc key position normal for acc wire.
Other wires, Ignition 1, Starter 1 and 2 are ok.
When I check my alarm box when I press remote start button there are no
relay clicking.
Any idea?
Thanks
uros 
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Posted: January 30, 2014 at 11:21 AM / IP Logged  
i m keep on trying,
If I press remote start and turn key in on position
car start asp its no need for me to crank the engine.
Ideas are more than welcome
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