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cpgoose 
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Posted: September 02, 2002 at 9:55 AM / IP Logged  

Ok, for the 20026, yes, I think it's the standalone remote start module that comes with a remote.  The reason I was interested in that was if it could do the same exact things that the 20022 could do (and that it had a remote and was on sale:).

But it sounds like if I use my checkmate remote to work the 20026, then I won't be able to do the bypassing, like you said.  Then I'm not interested in it..maybe i'll call them back and see.

I'm still interested in the 20022...it's the same price from the DT website.  It's just that (again), if the 20026 did the same thing as the 22, then I would think about that one too since I can buy it in a store,  you know?

I'm glad you're confirming the stuff I should be able to do (IGN Control and Sensor Bypass) with the 22.  I don't know who I was talking to at DT, but I said to him that I heard that's what's good about their products (that you could bypass an alarm), and he said no.  Go figure.  Maybe I'll call back tomorrow again:)

Thanks again for the help.

omega 
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Posted: September 13, 2002 at 10:45 AM / IP Logged  

I was actually thinking about the original RS you have again.  Do you still have it?  I don't know why I didn't think of this before but I think you MIGHT be able to use it.  If you get 3 relays and hook them all up to the ign1 output of the RS, I think you could make everything work.

Firstly you'd connect one relay so that it put 12V on the ignition wire when the RS powered up IGN1.  Then you'd put another relay so that when IGN1 was powered by the RS it would break the shock sensor's connection to ground(the black wire from the sensor to the alarm module).  The third relay would connect the alarm input wire on the alarm to the car's IGN wire but when there was voltage on the RS IGN1 it would break that connection.  I have no idea why I didn't think of this before.  I kept thinking that the car's own ignition wires would also travel "back" down to the RS ignition wire but with a relay installed it wouldn't and that is what I didn't realise before.

So I think with a little wiring it might work.

Also you might only need 2 relays because I think the BullDog starter uses "satellite" relays already?  I'm not sure about that but if you have wires that lead from the RS to relays and then connect the car's wires, then you have satellite relays. 

Stupidly enough, if I thought of this a month ago we would have never had the above PAGES of conversations!

cpgoose 
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Posted: September 23, 2002 at 10:40 AM / IP Logged  

BIG THANKS TO OMEGA FOR SOLVING THIS PROBLEM!!!!

Well for anyone not following this problem (which you probably weren't), Omega solved this entire problem that I've been having since DECEMBER of 2001!!!  I added a remote starter to my girlfriend's existing (aftermarket) alarm.   The problem was that when you remotely started the car, you couldn't use the keyless entry anymore!  Well, I had been given about 3 things to try over the past couple months...which turned into 3 strikes because none of them worked.  Well finally I learned about these other remote starters that come with IGNITION and SENSOR bypasses, that would solve my problem  I almost bought one, and Omega tells me how to solve my problem with 2 relays!  I wired it up this weekend, and my problem is now solved!!!  Basically, just bypassed the IGNITION and the SENSOR with the relays....now that I've learned about it, it makes more sense to me.  But there's nothing like gettting a problem solved that's been sitting there for SO LONG!!!

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cpgoose 
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Posted: October 28, 2002 at 9:33 AM / IP Logged  

NEW PROBLEM:

Ok, here's a litte more info (some problems going on).

The car can now be remotely started with disarming first, and also the keyless entry works

while the car is remotely running.  Peachy.

BUT, sometimes when you remotely start the car, the alarm goes off.

Upon walking up to the car, the LED is blinking 2 times, which means
the trunk or hoodpin trigger.  (There is no hoodpin in the car, but the
trunk does set off the alarm).  One of the biggest things I've noticed
is that the times the alarm does go off when remotely started....the car
has been SITTING for a while.  (overnight or a little longer).  For example,
if it's parked at night, and then started in the morning, the alarm will sound.
BUT...if you remotely start it later in the day (the afternoon or so), it won't
set off the alarm.  Could this either be timing or temperature?

I'm so confused.

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