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Posted: November 03, 2005 at 8:48 AM / IP Logged  
Yeah, unfortuanately for me I have no one within 200 miles that sells them so I can't hear them.  I thought I'd use the 21L @33hz because if you look at the top of the page I linked earlier it says "our favorite" for that configuration.  Again though, thats for in home environment.  I'm sure sealed will be good.  That 10L sealed I think is what DYohn used when he listened to them.  He said his kicks were .3 ft3 if I'm not mistaken, and he liked them from what I gathered.
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Posted: November 03, 2005 at 9:47 AM / IP Logged  
Look again at the graph for 21L, 33Hz.  You see that nasty port resonance?  At 300 Hz that's within the vital range of that driver, and it's a 10 db jump.  I would avoid that.
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Posted: November 03, 2005 at 11:58 AM / IP Logged  
Yeah, I'm going to used the sealed for the car it's going to make my life easier.  I'd like to get these for the house though.  I'd also like the 4way for center channelported box volume question - Page 2 - Last Post -- posted image.  So many projects, so little time (and money!)
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Posted: November 04, 2005 at 4:49 PM / IP Logged  
Stevdart, I hate to bug after all you've already done but check these out.  They seem to be real close (I think) to the extremis in the 10L sealed enclosure and much cheaper.  Am I right, or did I overlook something like last time?
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Posted: November 04, 2005 at 5:17 PM / IP Logged  
A little bit of a difference in power handling, doncha think?  This one should go vented or IB, it looks like. Fs / Qes = 66.7 EBP  Same as the Extremis in this category, IIRC, but a huge difference in Fs and not capable of the power handling (isn't the Extremis capable of 100 watts?).  I would use the vented enclosure for efficiency with this one.  Otherwise I didn't do a spec comparison because my bet is that they are not in the same boat except maybe for the XBL^2 technology.  Email Steven Kephart about this.
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Posted: November 04, 2005 at 7:35 PM / IP Logged  

thats true, i was modeling them both at 50W because of the 8ohm thing.

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