1 ohm amp

You seem to have missed the point of this thread - Helping this guy make a GOOD decision on a 1 ohm stable amp. Your post is also riddled with tons of misconceptions:

Have you ever had to send a product back on warranty? Lets just say it isn't as easy as snapping your fingers. This is how many lower end companies get people to buy their gear. (by the way, if you would read, I never mentioned anything bad about Profile.) I would rather be listening to my music instead of sending my gear back on a warranty claim, and then having to wait for it to come back! (some people don't have loads of stereo equipment laying around for when they have to send things back for warranty claims)

Not only have you now made it clear that Cadence is low quality and you would never own it, but you then suggested that this is the product he should be purchasing over a far superior product! Why would you make a suggestion about products you have never owned? I would never tell anyone to buy something that I haven't experienced myself, or witnessed first hand.

Since this is quickly becoming a waste of my time and others who are reading this, lets get past all of this nonsense and down to the meat and bones. It is NOT justifiable to buy an inferior product, when a quality product is available for a mere $60 or $70 more. Period.

Actually, no, the point of this thread was for this guy to find a cheap 1ohm amp, had you read his last post you would see that he said he doesn't want to spend more than $200. I personally would just hold off on buying an amp and save money for something better, he doesn't.

I have, and I agree for the most part, but that was never "the point of this thread"

Who wouldn't? But even the most "top tier" companies have manufacturing errors.

How about this: once Orion makes/sells an amp that is 600w RMS at 1ohm thats less than $200 and someone asks for an amp thats 600w RMS at 1ohm that costs less than $200, I'll push that on people like crack in Harlem..?

I never told him to buy those amps, I gave him a list of amps that were what he was looking for.

Not only do I find this hard to believe, I never actually said, "Go buy Cadence, it'll put a spring your step and a twinkle in your eye." I only ever said, "These amps are cheap and put out the power you're looking for."

I agree 100%. But again, I only ever answered what he asked, you're the one that feels the need to dispute everything I've said, and I choose to rebuttle because I love a good banter.

I never said that it will put out the same , what I said was that you could buy an amp that puts out 600w at 1ohm or you could buy an amp that puts out 600w at 4ohms, the latter usually being less expensive and safer to operate at.

im pretty sure im go with this kenwood excelon it has 600w rms at one ohm and found one for 140 orginally 300 so ...

Ouch! That hurts to hear you say that! lol!

I hear this a lot from the older audiophiles. I have had numerous old AND new products of Orion, or directed electronics for that matter! Unfortunately nobody backs up their story of why they are "garbage". I would love to hear why you think these products are now crap.

Agreed, and -

My singular experience with Orion was *very* poor - having purchased an Orion 4-channel at Sounddomain (beginning of 2006, as I recall) before they stopped selling car audio gear - the thing I got in the mail was a JOKE.  The whole amplifier weighed like half of what the ultraportable I'm typing this post on weighs - the chrome wasn't chrome, it was like silverly paint that was flaking off right out of the box, and the instructions had a bunch of max power ratings in it.

After it was installed, as I was adjusting the gain, when I touched the gain knob with the screwdriver, the thing sparked and the amp CAUGHT FIRE and SMOKED for nearly 5 minutes.  It didn't even last an hour installed in the car.

That's my Orion story.