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faberry1 
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Posted: May 24, 2008 at 11:52 PM / IP Logged  

chriswallace187

so your saying on the park/nutral switch you don't need to hook this up? I won't if I don't have too. That's all I have left. Everything else is hooked up.

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Posted: May 25, 2008 at 12:32 AM / IP Logged  

another question, in step 5 it says "with the help of a jumper wire, power up the vehicles ignition" do you know what this means? Why not use the key?

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Posted: May 25, 2008 at 12:33 AM / IP Logged  
That was on the xk531 module
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Here's my problem. While testing the alarm and bypass kit, my remote start won't work at all. I tested all the wires for 12 volts and amps. They all chack out, I'm getting the readings as I should according to the install book. The xk531 will not sense the doors being open. I arm the system and you can enter the vehicle, and start the vehicle. This should not happen. When I close the doors it does not arm, and it will not arm automatically. Also when I put the xk531 in mode 5 option 2 windows roll-up on, it will not roll up the windows. Here are the connections I made from start to almost finished:
Primary Harness (H1), 12-Pin Connector
H1/1 RED / white to (none)
H1/2 Red to Red (IG switch)
H1/3 Brown to Siren
H1/4 Empty
H1/5 Black to chassis Ground
H1/6 Violet to (none)
H1/7 Blue to (none)
H1/8 Green to violet/white (xk531)
H1/9 BLACK/ white to (none)
H1/10 WHITE/ blue to provided push pin switch (grounded to chassis ground)
H1/11 White to park lamp relay (pin 86)
H1/12 Orange to none
Auxiliary Harness (H2), 6-Pin Connector
H2/1 Light/blue to (none)
H2/2 WHITE/ black to (none)
H2/3 Violet/black to (none)
H2/4 GREEN / WHITE to (none)
H2/5 Gray/black to (none)
H2/6 Light GREEN/ black to (none)
Door Lock Harness, 3-Pin Connector
1 Light Blue to green (xk531)
2 Empty
3 Green to green (xk531)
Heavy Guage Inline Connector Key Switch Interface
1 Purple to Star side of yellow wire (IG Switch)
2 Green to key side of yellow wire (IG Switch)
3 Red to Red wire (IG Switch)
4 Orange to RED / Black wire (IG Switch)
5 Pink to Dark Blue wire (IG Switch)
6 Red to Pink/Black wire (IG Switch)
7 Pink/White to (none)
8 RED / White to Pink/Black wire (IG Switch)
Remote Start Harness (H3), 5-Pin Connector
H3/1 BLACK/ White to (none)
H3/2 Violet/White to Tan wire on second fuel injector
H3/3 Brown to WHITE/ Tan of brake pedal switch
H3/4 Gray to Black wire (-) of the hood lamp
H3/5 Blue/White to (none)
Horn, Channel 6 (H4), 2-Pin Connector
H4/1 to (none)
H4/2 Brown to (none)
Relay Satellite 4-Pin Connector
1 Blue to Brown (xk531)
2 Orange to (none)
3 Violet to (none)
4 Pink to (none)
XK531 Rest Of The Wires
1 Orange (Panic) to (none)
2 Violet to OBDII Data Connector (Pin-2)
4 Red to Red wire (IG Switch)
3 Black to chassis ground
Hopefully you can help, and it won't take too much time from you. I know you are there and I'm here and you can't be here to check it out. I only have two days left as I have my vehicle in the motorpool and is not allowed in there at all. I can't do it here in housing because there is no electric to solder wires, run a drill and so on. Anything will be greatly appreciated. Almost done. Thanks again for your support. I couldn't have done it without chriswallace187 and several others at 12 volts.
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To confirm again, you don't need to connect the neutral safety to any wire on the vehicle. If you look at pages 26 and 27 of the install manual, it describes the vehicles you would need to connect it on, namely older model GMs, Dodge Dakotas.
The purpose of the jumper wire has to do with the nature of transponder programming. The XK531(and every other bypass I've ever seen for Chryslers) programs to the car as though it were a new key being added. When the vehicle sees the 2 existing keys in sequence and the ignition is left on for 10 seconds, it goes into programming mode and will learn a new transponder(in a key or a bypass module), if it sees that new transponder for 10 seconds with the ignition on and the car off.
When you're adding a new key it's pretty simple to power the ignition on if you have the key cut beforehand. With a bypass it's a bit more complicated because if you use a key to power the ignition, the car will see that key and the bypass, get confused, and not learn the bypass's transponder.
There are 3 ways you can power the ignition while you're programming the XK531.
1. Use the jumper wire as the manual states.
2. Ground the wait to start wire on the 791XV and activate remote start.
3. After you've used the 2 existing keys to get it into programming mode, wrap the head of one with aluminum foil and turn the ignition on with it.
As far as the issues from your last post - try going through the programming steps again and confirming all the indicators that the XK531 has programmed. Also recheck connections. I'm assuming that your connection of the lt. blue (-) unlock from the 791 is a typo and that you meant that you connected it to the lt. blue wire on the 531 as well.
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Thanks again chriswallace187. Your a life saver. Ok, I know I programmed the xk531 to the T, after going through a painful experience. If I knew it was going to be that easy, I would have waited before doing it the way I did. I jumped from the red,and pink/black wire to the blue, RED / black to power up accessory and ignition without starting the vehicle and was able to successfully program the xk531. I like option 3 very quick and easy. I don't believe their is a lt blue wire on the xk531, it is a blue wire. I connected the lt blue wire to the door lock harness 791XV to the green wire of the xk531. I'm going to go through the programming steps again tomorrow to make sure it is not the wiring. Now do you need to disarm the vehicle to remote start? I believe one of my problems with arming is that two of my lock and unlock switch are broke. They will not lock automatically. I have to manually lock them. The back liftgate and the front passenger door. I will try to manually lock them and see if that helps. Something that was bothering me was when I armed the system, the remote control flashe the hood and left side door while arming. Now I connected the gray wire to the black (-) of the hood lamp under the hood. Is this sufficiant? This will not cause it to not remote start the system will it? I have read both the install guide and the user manual and did not find how to activate and de-activate the remote start. The blue/white wire on the push-pin. Anyways I will let you know tomorrow the outcome of this. Again thanks a lot for the info.
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Posted: May 25, 2008 at 11:36 AM / IP Logged  

I just found this updated vehicle wiring diagram. Do I need to hook this ORANGE / black wire to make my remote start to work?

2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee Alarm, Remote Starter, Keyless Entry Wiring Information
Constant 12V+Pink/Black or Red Ignition Switch Harness 
StarterYellow or Yellow/Blue Ignition Switch Harness 
IgnitionDark Blue Ignition Switch Harness 
Ignition 3BLACK/ Orange Ignition Switch Harness 2nd Accessory. 791 xv 2000 jeep grand cherokee - Page 5 -- posted image.
AccessoryRED / Black Ignition Switch Harness 
TachTan PCM right Rear Connector Engine (1 Cylinder Setting) 
Neutral Safety WireYellow (+) Ignition Switch 
Brake SwitchWHITE/ Tan Brake Switch 
Parking LightsYellow (-) 1K Ohm Resistor Negative 
Head LampYellow (-) Head Light Switch 330 Ohm RES. 
Factory DisarmLight GREEN/ Orange(-) Driver's Door Lock Switch 463 Ohm Resistor 
Door TriggerYellow (-) Courtesy Light under Dash 
Door LockORANGE / Black Driver's. ORANGE / Purple Passenger's in each Front Door 
Door UnlockPink/Black Driver's. Pink/Purple Passenger's Reverse Polarity 
Driver's LockORANGE / Black In Driver's Door 
Driver's UnlockPink/Black In Driver's Door 
Passenger UnlockPink/Purple Right Kick Panel 
Horn WireGray/Orange (-) 52 Pin Connector POS 1 behind left Side of DAS 
Windows UpLF=Light Blue, RF=Brown, LR=Dark Blue, RR=Gray 
Windows DownLF=White, RF=Purple, LR=RED / White, RR=Dark Green 

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chriswallace187 
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The BLACK/ orange is an accessory - it may be necessary to get the blower working. It certainly won't stop the car from remote starting.
The green (-) lock from the 791 should go to the green wire on the 531, and lt. blue (-) unlock should go to blue on the 531. Arm and disarm may not work the way you have it setup there.
Specify what's wrong with your locks. Just those 2 door actuators don't work with the switch? or the switches don't work?
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Lock and unlock work fine. Its the arm and disarm thats the problem. When I close the doors, push the arm button on the transmitter to arm it only locks and unlocks the doors. It doesn't arm. Because I can get in the vehicle while it is armed and start the car. When the system is armed you shouldn't be able to enter thew vehicle when armed the siren should go off, and starterkill should activate.
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faberry1 
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Posted: May 25, 2008 at 9:33 PM / IP Logged  

Ok here is another problem. Before I hooked up the remote start relay, I cut the yellow wire in half on the jeep. Outcome was it would not start. so I continued to hook up the remote start relay and done. the vehicle starts. no fuses or power to the yellow wire. That should engage the starter kill on the relay. Still the vehicle starts with no fuses and so on.

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