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bumflik 
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Posted: July 17, 2008 at 10:53 PM / IP Logged  
What is the loudest subwoofer set-up you can get for 500-600 RMS?
I am doing this for my cuz, and he has a stock alt. I was thinking go with a single 12" alpine type R in a 3 cu.ft. Ported box? Or maybe you guys think 2x 12" Kicker comps? I dont know since I dont have alot of experience with alot of subs.
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Posted: July 17, 2008 at 11:09 PM / IP Logged  

What is the loudest subwoofer set-up you can get for 500-600 RMS?

Mine.

But seriously, loudest setup takes a lot of experimenting.  And sounds like crap...but you aren't asking for anything but loud.  If this were my test, I would start with a bandpass and use WinISD to help me find highest SPL  *in cuz's vehicle*  before I started cutting wood.  I'd use a series of test tones with another setup in that vehicle to find the best resonant freq.  Use that freq as your guide as you work the box dimensions.  I'd probably model it using two subs, and work out placement so that they are both firing from the same plane and in the same direction toward the back of the vehicle.

By the way, if money isn't a concern, why the limit of 600 watts?  Is cuz wanting you to set him up for comp?

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
bumflik 
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Posted: July 17, 2008 at 11:28 PM / IP Logged  
stevdart wrote:

What is the loudest subwoofer set-up you can get for 500-600 RMS?

Mine.

But seriously, loudest setup takes a lot of experimenting. And sounds like crap...but you aren't asking for anything but loud. If this were my test, I would start with a bandpass and use WinISD to help me find highest SPL *in cuz's vehicle* before I started cutting wood. I'd use a series of test tones with another setup in that vehicle to find the best resonant freq. Use that freq as your guide as you work the box dimensions. I'd probably model it using two subs, and work out placement so that they are both firing from the same plane and in the same direction toward the back of the vehicle.

By the way, if money isn't a concern, why the limit of 600 watts? Is cuz wanting you to set him up for comp?

Its limited because of the fact that he does not want his headlights to dim and strain his alt. So I told him that he should stick with nothing more than 600 watts RMS. His dad is really strict on him so this is why we cant upgrade his alt or put in something like a kenetic battery. It is a 4 door mitsubishi Galante (4 cyl). He had to beg his dad to let him buy subs, so we came up with this, but he (like myself) loves loud music. (Sound quality imo is for those people that dont listen to loud music)
Well, I have winisd and i am gonna go ahead and see whats up.
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My system sounds good AND gets plenty loud. ONE 10" sub, BTW.

If you want it loud, and only loud, stevdart has the right idea... But, it will only hit the certain tuning freq loud -the rest WILL sound like crap.

If he wants it to get loud at low freq's (which is considered SQ material), then a simple ported box will do you good. If he wants it loud, then do what stevdart suggested.

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bumflik 
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Yeah we already have our minds set, He is gonna buy 1 alpine type 12" and a 600 watt rms monoD hifonics amp. This set up should be loud enough for his tastes.
Now I have read that the type R   beats the hardest in a 2.5-3 cu.ft box. Therefore I will find blueprints for a 3 cu.ft. box tuned to 35hz for him.
It will be easy for us to buy the 3/4 MDF material and cut it. The hard part will only be finding a blueprint and borrowing a nail gun to seal up the box since I dont want predrilled holes in the wood. I think wood glue and nail guns are the best way to go. Well if any of you guys can help us let me know, my Email is (and no I am not gonna pay for blueprints, do this out of kindness)Thnx!
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Money is no object and your going with hifonics?
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I would suggest atleast a 1000 watt rms amp. I gave my Type R 1200 watts rms and it did fine...they are underrated on the powerhandling spec pretty good if you know what you are doin.
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advanced_audio wrote:
Money is no object and your going with hifonics?
Well I thought hifonics was good? As long as it supplies the watts I dont mind, and I also read hifonics had underrated amps. Now dont suggest something like JL audio becuz he is not looking for sound quality.
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aznboi3644 wrote:
I would suggest atleast a 1000 watt rms amp. I gave my Type R 1200 watts rms and it did fine...they are underrated on the powerhandling spec pretty good if you know what you are doin.
Well I do plan to but it in a Oversized 2.5-3 cu.ft. box. I am guessing a 700 rms @2 ohm hifonics amp would be playing it safe.
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i think fior  one sub a aplien not saying what model it is in a 3 cu box is kinda too big .
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