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KPierson 
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If you didn't install a starter kill relay then your alarm won't have starter kill.
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So I just have to add high amperage relay to the the line that goes from alarm module to Starter motor right?

and connect the orage status output wire as the activitaion for the relay?

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once the xcrs is hooked up as it should be, the starter kill will function, on the xcrs there's a a green and purple wire, cut the starter wire in car, and hook green to the side coming from the key switch, and purple to the side going to the engine. once armed u won't be able to start with the keys but u will be able to remote start. the additional relay and the orange wire won;t be necessary. hope it helps. 

installin's easy. its da customers who make it hard.
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with the XRCS installed properly, the alarm will also sound if your ignition turns on.
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Alarm does sound but car still starts. 

tall technician, what you're talking about si the relay satellite wire connections?  Yes I did cut the starter wire and connect the purple towards the starter and green to the starter input (key side)

Quoting the instrall manual, it says ""GREEN STARTER INPUT" for anti grind or starter kill attach this wire to the key side of the starter wire for antigrind and for the starter kill to be active."

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also when I use the remote start feature ( I do not have immobilizer bypass working yet) engine does crank, so i'm going to assume that I did use the correct wire,  ( I also tested the wire using DMM to check for voltage whlie cranking with key.)
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check to make sure u've got the ignition and accessory wires hooked up right and not in reverse. if the pink is hooked to an accesory circuit, the alarm will sound, but the car will still crank.

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I'm having trouble bypassing the immobilizer on my install on the 08 Honda element.  I have Viper 5900.  I have tried both the PKH34 from bypass kit using install method "A", as well as DEI 556U unit using the antena ring meathod.

using either one, I cannot get the car to start.  It cranks.  but does not start.

some tests I've done.

With key in the ignition at off position, remote start cranks but no start,

with key in the ignition at ON position, restart start works

Am I missing a wire connection to the factory immobilizer, to get it to activate?

could not having connected the 2nd accessory wire cause this issue?

Thanks In advance.

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you have missed a wire that needs to be powered. if it was an immobilizer issue it would start with the key in the ignition in the off position. with the key in the lock cylinder and turned to "ignition", it sounds like you are powering another circuit that you were not powering before.
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I see no other connection being necesary.  One last thing I have to check, i realized, i need to check if i have connected the pink wire to the correct ignition wire on the car. 

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