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mcben789

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Posted: October 22, 2008 at 9:48 PM / IP Logged

Hey I have one Alpine Type-R in about a 2.5-ish cube foot ported box with a 500 w Alpine; the box was designed on WinISD and I really like it. I'm one to never be satisfied so i'm always looking for something new. Well to the topic:

My type r sounds great to me. I just want to be one of those guys who has a small amount of wattage and a small sub, but big sound. Does that make sense? If possible I would like my new little sub little amp set-up to be same amount of money/cheaper than my current set-up.

Also WinISD estimated about a steady 110ish dbs across the board. (I'd know more exact numbers, but my computer is getting fixed so i'm on a buddie's comp)

I'm not looking for an 8" to hit ridiculous dbs or anything. Just looking for a unique set up (sub/box combo) that involves a small sub and a small box that hits about as hard as my Alpine 12" and costs the same/less.

Thanks in advance guys.

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Posted: October 23, 2008 at 12:48 AM / IP Logged

Hoffman's iron law states that you can have two, but never all three between high output, high efficiency, and a small enclosure. You MUST give up one to get the other two. Do you want high output in a small box? Then you will need a lot of power to do it.

An 8" or 10" sub that can keep up with a 12 probably isn't going to be cheap. Unfortunately you are going to have to compromise somewhere.

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Posted: October 23, 2008 at 5:39 AM / IP Logged

an 8 or 10 inch sub can keep up with your 12" type r...but the enclosure is going to have to be huge...some kind of 6th order bandpass or horn loaded enclosure

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Posted: October 23, 2008 at 6:52 PM / IP Logged

really its not so much that you need a massive box or anything. you can find 8's that will hit nicely if you look hard enough but to get something thats gonna compete on the level of a type r 12 your probably going to be throwing down a good bit of cash. if your willing to throw it down then you could go with a jl 8w7 or for a bit less bass then the alpine you could go with a kicker 8L7 and with a ported box might be doing ok. thats just what i know

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Posted: October 23, 2008 at 7:56 PM / IP Logged

Little speakers with little watts that can produce big sound? Try Tang Band 6.5" subs. Two in a vented enclosure @ 35Hz powered by 100 watts rock! When these little guys were in my car people kept asking me "Where are your subs?"

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mcben789

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Posted: October 24, 2008 at 9:31 AM / IP Logged

Would this little sub hit lows and be as loud as my Alpine? Waiting for computer to get fixed, don't have WinISD.

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Hit lows? Yes. As loud? No.

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Posted: October 24, 2008 at 2:05 PM / IP Logged

Tang Bands rock.......Look into some peerless SLS 8 inchers, or if you can find some look int the peerless XLS 8 inchers

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And the digital designs 8" in a slot port box.

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mcben789

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Posted: October 27, 2008 at 6:04 PM / IP Logged

These all look pretty cool. Would these have as good SQ as the Type R? I'm not just looking for straight high output.

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