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BAD attitude to have in this forum. We are not the ususal dumb asses over at caraudioforum.com You should REALLY check out what we know before you come in here with those kinds of ideas... An 8" WILL go as low as a 15". I guarantee it. It may or may not have the same OUTPUT AT A GIVEN FREQUENCY, but I can tell you from experience that they can go that low. Take your New York attatude back to New York. You'll be welcomed here as soon as you chill.It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

6thaveme wrote: the guy that thinks 8 inch woofers can hit low notes like 15 inch woofers obviously doesnt no a thing about car audio..do u no how big of a box and how many 8 inch subs you would need to produce a low note like a 15...15s are for low bass 8 inch subs are for people who dont like crazy bass..im not even going to get into this..this is a no brainer

what is a note? a note is a given frequency, correct? so frequency = note as far as terminology is concerned. with that being said, a SUB woofer regardless of size will produce the notes it is designed to produce which are frequencies/notes between 20hz up to around 200hz(more or less). an 8 inch SUBWOOFER is designed to hit these frequencies just as much as an 18 inch subwoofer. the output may be less but the frequency response is still there, and with the right enclosure, it will be audible. you might need many 8's to equal the low frequency audibility of an 18 but even with 1 8 inch sub the frequency response is still there. and you dont no a thing about grammar

6thaveme wrote: the guy that thinks 8 inch woofers can hit low notes like 15 inch woofers obviously doesnt no a thing about car audio..do u no how big of a box and how many 8 inch subs you would need to produce a low note like a 15...15s are for low bass 8 inch subs are for people who dont like crazy bass..im not even going to get into this..this is a no brainer

Re-reading, for re-addressing... Speaking of no-brainers... There is ZERO difference between car audio and home audio, and anybody that thinks there is, got no brains... Even for those people that don't like "crazy bass". Sorry, 'volters, I just had to add that jab. Did I mention that this guy REALLY irked me?It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

ok now u guys need me to realy get into this go on kicker.com and read the specs for a kicker l7 an 8 inch kicker l7 has a response from 28hz to 100hz.A 15 inch kicker l7 has a reponse from 18hz to 100hz.So mr platinum you tell me how a 8inch sub is going to catch low frequienies like a 15inch sub obviously the box desighn has alot to do with it tuning the port etc but if the sub doesnt respond to 27hz and lower it isnt going to be makeing any bass in the well desighned box its in.......therefor a 15 inch sub in a box tuned correctly will be more responsive and produce much stronger bass at low frequincies..i used kicker l7 as an example this is pretty much with every woofer out there 15s are for realy low bass 8 inch subs are worthless in my book4 12s cvr sealed

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You are so very wrong, my friend... Very wrong. That's called "USABLE" frequency response. That means that in most cases, that is what the woofer can produce in USABLE output. That doesn't mean that it can't produce any frequency outside of that band. EVERY driver diaphragm is going to respond to whatever frequency you put into it, even a tweeter diaphragm can respond to below 27Hz. It can't put any SPL out at those frequencies, simply due to the lack of excursion, but the diaphragm WILL respond. I have a single 10 in my trunk that you would NEVER be able to tell was not at LEAST a 12 inch driver, just hearing it's low frequecy response. In my car, I hit 21Hz, FLAT! It'll flex my windshield to the point of bouncing my wiperblades. With a 10! ONE! I have three regular mebers (and two not-so-regular) that have heard this system, and will vouch for it's capacity. Learn when you are outclassed, and/or outknowledged, and learn a little bit before you come back here telling us we are wrong. It's not us. Oh, by the way? Kicker is worthless in my book... Mass market crapola, skewing the specs as bad as ANYBODY out there, overinflating the numbers for "capability" purposes, and one of the foremost spewers of BS in years!It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

haemphyst wrote: You are so very wrong, my friend... Very wrong. That's called "USABLE" frequency response. That means that in most cases, that is what the woofer can produce in USABLE output. That doesn't mean that it can't produce any frequency outside of that band. EVERY driver diaphragm is going to respond to whatever frequency you put into it, even a tweeter diaphragm can respond to below 27Hz. It can't put any SPL out at those frequencies, simply due to the lack of excursion, but the diaphragm WILL respond. I have a single 10 in my trunk that you would NEVER be able to tell was not at LEAST a 12 inch driver, just hearing it's low frequecy response. In my car, I hit 21Hz, FLAT! It'll flex my windshield to the point of bouncing my wiperblades. With a 10! ONE! I have three regular mebers (and two not-so-regular) that have heard this system, and will vouch for it's capacity. Learn when you are outclassed, and/or outknowledged, and learn a little bit before you come back here telling us we are wrong. It's not us. Oh, by the way? Kicker is worthless in my book... Mass market crapola, skewing the specs as bad as ANYBODY out there, overinflating the numbers for "capability" purposes, and one of the foremost spewers of BS in years!

PREACH!! haemphyst is not the only one who will tell you the same thing. we dont make this up, we just look at years of experience and performance, not over inflated spec numbers that companies use to sell equipment. your L7 might be loud, to you, but that doesnt mean it is a quality, well engineered product. you called me out for being an alpine fan boy in another post but ive never owned an alpine product ever, im just looking at known performance and my past experience.

you are righ about that kicker is over rated and in most cases years of experiance will be the final answer over specs from a website...i do agree with you...sound security..but the guy that responded telling us his 10 flexed the windshield and etc im doughting your abilities to make a single ten do those things..listen i beleive a 15 sounds better when producing low bass..through my experience...4 12s cvr sealed

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that just shows that your "experience" is VERY limited. It's fact that an 8" sub will play just as low as a bigger sub. You just have yet to experience it. I do not doubt that haems 10" flexes his windshield...its about the enclosure. Pete a.k.a Hexibase had people thinking he had two 15's and over 1000 watts with this TWO 8" SUBWOOFERS and 800 watts. Flexed his sunroof and hatch. I agree that you do need to learn when you aren't right and just stop and learn something. There is a lot of knowledge here. People won't respond to ignorant attitudes.Custom Enclosure Design