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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 22, 2009 at 10:09 PM / IP Logged  
ok.... also, how do I measure the voltage of the thermistor?
When I set my DMM to DC and 2v, It stays around .020 -.027
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Posted: April 22, 2009 at 10:12 PM / IP Logged  
Does that voltage change when the thermistor changes?
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it does change, but it doesn't seem to be inline with the display.
at about 30C, the voltage jumps around .020 and .024 when the temp is about 26C, its floating around .020 and .026
I cant help but feel i'm doing something wrong.
How should the DMM be set? AC? DC? (I used DC)
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With that low of a voltage reading it almost seems like your probe is a thermocouple and not a thermistor.  Thermocouples work down in the mV range.

The voltage coming back is DC and should be measured against the ground of the unit.

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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 7:01 AM / IP Logged  
measured against the ground, what precisely does that mean?
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black probe to ground, red probe to sensor input.

How many wires come back on the sensor wire?

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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 4:47 PM / IP Logged  
just two, black and red. so I had red to red and black to black.
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I would probe from the units ground to the two wires and see if you get a voltage back on either one of them.
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 7:55 PM / IP Logged  
so that would be the black wire that provides ground to the unit itself right? the black wire(gound) on the molex thats powering the entire thing?
This thing is a pain to take apart, its really weird. its like florescent display or something, and nothing will show up on the screen unless all the pieces are actually pushed together with some degree of force.
Anyway if thats the correct way to test it, I'll do that.
Should I use the 2v setting? or something else?
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Posted: June 10, 2009 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, back to this, I still haven't purchased replacement displays since I burned the other two out, but I need to figure out how I'm going to do this as I have now almost completed my bezel with the holes for the displays in place of the vent.
Here is the display all taken apart. Now how the hell does this thing work?? The LCD display has only the gauge line on it (GREEN/ YELLOW/red) and NO physical connection to the circuit board.
As you can see it consists of the screen with a sheet of paper on the back, then a small "reflector" of sorts(the clear plastic piece with yellow wires) that has a small LED on the side, and does nothing more than light up. There is a piece of white paper to act as a reflector for the light, and then a small frame, and the circuit board sites on top of that.
there is NO DISPLAY AT ALL if this is not squished together. if it isn't squeezed tightly together, the displays simply lights up, there are no numbers or anything other than the gauge line until you press it together.
Here is the board, and the part that I fried. (The circled part with the bubble on it)
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
This is the unit at each step of assembly.
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
temperature displays - Page 3 -- posted image.
so how can we figure out what voltage is coming back from the temp probe (the long RED / black wires) and wire it up to an op-amp to control a relay?
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