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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 6:43 PM / IP Logged  
ok well, apply voltage to the pin, if they blink, off you go.  just make your connection to the pin that's if both blink, if only one blinks like i said before the other one will be close by, find it and diode isolate both, striped bars off the diode facing away from the alarm this time.
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This $#@! car is haunted.
I know I ask a lot of questions but this is not the first alarm\I have installed. It is my third and I can honestly say, this G@# D*&$# F!&$%*# car is haunted. I am not getting the results the book says I should on some wires and the book shows an illustration of the BCM plugs with their pin numbers indicated in the corresponding hole.
The illustration seems to indicate the viewpoint is from the harness side based on the little picture of the wires being bent down and the initials HS. Well, my "pin 21" is not where the book says it should be and I can say this with 100% certainty as I broke out the old magnifying glass and can see an itsy bitsy "21" where the book says "40" is. My "21" also happens to have the correct color for the CAN wire.
I can't say it enough... G@# D*&$# F!&$%*# car! and Nissan too!
I am a gnats *** away from ripping this all out and getting rid of it and possibly the car!. I could almost imagine the conversation I'd be having with a shop that would have been trying to put this in. I probably never would have believed them if they told me that the car was all fracked up wiring wise.
Please, somebody---help!
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I have found the post here where some information was given for 2004 but I am not sure it is the same and if it is, that older post didn't include any BCM pin locations.
I am looking for the 2005 350Z BCM pin locations for common alarm wires.
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 8:27 PM / IP Logged  

It's the same. 2003-2005 are the same

Jeff
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 8:29 PM / IP Logged  
I wish that were true.
Either it isn't or my car is haunted.
Where the book says BCM pin 40 is, I have pin 21 and I know this because there is a small "21" stamped in the plastic.
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 8:40 PM / IP Logged  
My opinion: You want parking lights during remote start, but hazards when locking and unlocking. But that's up to you.
Parking lights: You can find that RED / blue probably in all kinds of places in the car, but I just grab it at any of the dashboard switches.
If I'm not mistaken, there were a couple of switches you would have had to unplug to take down the dash to do your install........if any of those switches lights up at night, it's going to have parking lights.
Hazards: Yes, you found the right wire. Putting a ground to the wire turns the hazards on; removing the ground turns them off.
If it were my car, I'd grab your "factory alarm disarm" and "factory alarm rearm" wires from the Viper, and tie them BOTH to the car's hazard wire.
That way, every time you unlock, and every time you lock, you'll get a brief hazard flash which looks nice.
You'll also end up with a hazard flash every time the remote start turns on, and every time it times out or you turn it off by remote.
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 8:45 PM / IP Logged  
BCM:
The picture you just showed above is the plug side, not the wire side. If you're holding the plug with the wires facing you, it's going to be all backwards.
Do this: Hold the plug with the wires facing you, long-ways from left to right, with the clip facing up.
Now, look closely at the plug (again, on the wire side). Each corner is marked, but it's very small, molded into the white plastic.
The top right corner will have a number 1, the top left will have 20, the bottom right will have 21, and the bottom left will have 40.
Or another way to look at it, is that the data wires for your XK07 are DEFINITELY twisted together. If you're not finding the data wires where they're supposed to be, you might be holding the plug backwards.
Also, that link I posted, to audiogroupforum.com.......you could look a the pics on that post if you want. If you're curious, read the whole thing, even though you're not in your case trying to hook up locks at the BCM.
Pins 11, 13, and 14 should be empty. That should help guide you to see if you're looking at it the right way.
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 9:16 PM / IP Logged  
Chris,
If I didn't already shave my head out of preference, this f-car and damn alarm would have made me bald by sudden and rapid hair loss.
I took a chance and cut that wire for the hazards and sure enough, no more hazards. I took my magnifying glass out and I see the 1, 20 ,21 & 40 in the four corners. The corner with the XK07 wires is marked 21. The pin for the hazards is 32, a green wire with a thin red stripe.Now that the wire is cut, the BCM side is 12v and the wire side is, well that depends on if the hazard button is depressed or not, if your using the 12v from the battery or the 12volts from the BCM pin 32 open wire or checking it against ground instead of (+)
Trust me, this car is evil and haunted.
If I want to "test" the hazard function by simulating what the alarm would do, would I apply (-) or (+) to
a) The BCM side of the wire
b) The harness side of the wire
EDIT
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In an earlier post I said I believed pin 29 was the hazard but it isn't or there is more than 1 hazard wire but when I cut pin 32 which is the GREEN/ red wire, the hazards don't work anymore.
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 10:13 PM / IP Logged  
Well I found the parking lights.
Note to self: never ever attempt an alarm in a 350Z ever again.
This car is getting even with me---for allowing me to install my Avic D3 with such effortless bliss. Oh wait, I get it, that was to lull me into a false sense of security and thinking, how hard could the alarm be. Got me.
I sure hope I get this done by May 5th.
Chris,
You suggested coupling the 5901 OEM security arm/disarm wires into one and connect that to the hazards.
What then will arm/disarm the OEM security system? I would like to retain the OEM system and functionality.
That and I still haven't figured how the hazard wire works to connect it to the 5901 without the risk of damage to the evil Z or the satanic alarm
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 10:40 PM / IP Logged  
This is a list of wires I have yet to connect:
Hatch "open" trigger
Hatch release for alarm remote
Dome light
Remote start "turbo timer"
Factory security arm & disarm
Door lock & unlock
--extended door lock/unlock for window operation
Jees, I don't feel like I made a dent in this thing.
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