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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 8:29 PM / IP Logged  
I'm gonna cut straight to the chase, basically I'm interested in testing my own knowledge of car audio.
Lets pretend I own a shop, and you are the customer. You come into my shop looking for something, and have questions.
Ask your hypothetical questions here, and I will try and answer them to the best of my knowledge.... play whichever customer type you wish..... if you decide to play a role, please post which role it is :)
Please allow me to be the only one to answer the questions posed here(aside from corrections) and keep the questions away from serious modifications. "the shop" would be mostly retail, handling basic installs, and custom boxes.
If I can't answer something I will simply say pass, and we will chalk that up to me not knowing.... in this case it would be nice if the question was answered by someone who knows.
Remember this is hypothetical, the questions asked here and any answers given are not to be taken seriously, and no advice given here should not be taken seriously unless otherwise backed up and verified by someone who has "been there done that"
fire away.
KPierson 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 8:47 PM / IP Logged  
Say, hypothetically, I live in a cold climate and I want to install a small heater in the trunk of my car to preheat my audio gear before using it.  What would be the best way to do this?
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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 9:17 PM / IP Logged  
heh, didn't see that coming, but should have.
should I take that as an invitation to opt out, or just some hilarious ironic humor
DYohn 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 9:28 PM / IP Logged  
The obvious answer to KPierson's question is to install two systems.  One, used as the "pre-heater" system, should be made up from crap components like Power Akoustik and Audiobahn and cranked into full clipping to maximize heat generation.  This is the real reason flea-market-level systems exist, actually: to function as pre-heaters for "real" gear.  Why do yo think Sony calls their crap "Xplode?"  This pre-heat system would come on first, and then once the trunk's ambient has attained the optimal operating temperature for the "real" system a thermostatic switch triggers a series of relays shutting down the crap system and activating the "real" one.  Simple, really.
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i am an idiot 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 9:35 PM / IP Logged  
Kevin must have a Pre-Rockford amplifier if it needs pre-heated. Remember the old Fosgate PR-250? They needed pre-heating.
bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 24, 2009 at 11:28 PM / IP Logged  
no he is refering to a question i posted a while back, and something I'm currently working on.
I wanted to warm my trunk before playing my system in any really cold weather.
DYhon.... clearly the best solution ;)
it's those kinds of questions i wanted to avoid as quite obviously I know very little about electronics themselves.
I'm not trying to pretend I know stuff that I don't, I'm simply just curious myself as to how much I may(not) know. so I hope it isn't taken the wrong way or anything.
KPierson 
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Posted: April 25, 2009 at 6:08 AM / IP Logged  

I was just trying to be funny!  :)

Here's a real question.

I have an 800wrms 1 ohm stable amp and I just blew my subs (I had 2 12" in a sealed box).  I'm thinking about replacing the subs with either 2 or 3 new 12" subs.  Which would you recomend and why?  I'm looking for the most bass possible on a mid range budget.

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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 25, 2009 at 7:31 AM / IP Logged  
Well, lets address the blown speakers issue, my first guess would be that your gains aren't set properly and your probably feeding a clipped signal to your amps or speakers. Bring your car by the shop and we'll check and set your gains properly with an oscope free of charge.
Personally I would skip the 3rd sub and just stick with two, the third sub isn't going to make a noticeable difference to your ear. In order to (double??) the output you need to (double??) the (surface/cone area?)
the human ear can only pickup sound in 3db increments.
(the wording for that is terrible, the exact details of that answer aren't quite in my memory)
Before I go suggesting a sub woofer, I need to know, are you looking to replace the box or do you want to just drop new subs into your existing boxes? If you want to just drop in new subs I would need to know how many cu ft the box(es) are so I could suggest a sub woofer good for that size.
If your willing to go with a new box this would open up your sub woofer options and we can design/build the box custom for the speakers on site.
If it's just drop in replacement you will have fewer choices, and your system won't really be optimized for the best bass.
however off the top of my head I would look at the DC level 2, 2 of those wired in series will give you 2ohm per speaker, and wiring those in series together bridged on the amp will give you 600W @ 1ohm.
your looking at about $575 for the speakers and custom box, depending on how you want to do the box.
I'm sure we can find cheaper options, it just really depends on what you want to do.
(question answered, further details/elaboration upon your responses)
how was that answer?
t&t tech 
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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM / IP Logged  

oohhh,i have one, customers ask me this like every other day, i'm quoting how the questionns frequently go

"i want a sytem for may car, not to loud, but if i had to crank it up i would be able to do so, what would you reccomend, say you had to supply everything and install", "wht price rang average are we talkin about,"

"i want good equipment, nothing that will cause me trouble"

hypothetical vehicle- nissan almera

playing customer who knows nothing about audio or electronics, but has the funds to spend.

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Posted: April 26, 2009 at 11:39 AM / IP Logged  

" I want add some bass for my 2009 Chevy 1500 truck. It has a good system in it already , I think it says Bose ... that's good right ? I want to add a bit more bass to it but want to keep the factory deck. What can you do for me and what price am I looking at ? "

Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
Mobile Audio/Video Specialist
Morden, Manitoba CANADA
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