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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 6:43 PM / IP Logged  
t&t tech wrote:

oohhh,i have one, customers ask me this like every other day, i'm quoting how the questionns frequently go

"i want a sytem for may car, not to loud, but if i had to crank it up i would be able to do so, what would you reccomend, say you had to supply everything and install", "wht price rang average are we talkin about,"

"i want good equipment, nothing that will cause me trouble"

hypothetical vehicle- nissan almera

playing customer who knows nothing about audio or electronics, but has the funds to spend.

First off, I have to say, I'm Canadian, so pricing here is different and will be seem costly to those in the US, not to mention some of the stuff I wouldn't have accurate pricing on since I can only go by whats available at the retail level. that being said.....
For something like that you would probably want a lower wattage system, say 300-500W, and maybe a couple of 10's in a well designed box. you could get deeper lows if you went with 12's instead.
Setting up the system properly will give you a good solid bass at low volumes (keeping you out of doodie) but will also allow you to show up the "pre-fab punks".
With that car I'd lean more towards the 10's, what price range were you looking at?
(put this on pause, I gotta go out and get my gf from work, I was looking into some brands and pricing for you, and will get back to this..... hold that thought.)
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Posted: April 27, 2009 at 8:32 PM / IP Logged  
It's been over a day and I still haven't received a qoute from you on the system I asked about....... should I go elsewhere ??
Jeff
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t&t tech 
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM / IP Logged  
velocity i was thinkin the same thing, lol, big johnny, don't worry about the costing, just build my system on paper, and i'll tell you if i can afford this, after all it is hypothetical, rightlets play a little game if we can - Page 2 -- posted image.
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bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 4:38 PM / IP Logged  
I'm gonna get back to that other question, I'm not up to par with brands, so I'll need to do my research, again keeping in mind if I was actually the owner of a shop I would have more easily accessible reference material, and actual products which the store carried. Naturally I would sell something we carry :)
Velocity Motors wrote:

" I want add some bass for my 2009 Chevy 1500 truck. It has a good system in it already , I think it says Bose ... that's good right ? I want to add a bit more bass to it but want to keep the factory deck. What can you do for me and what price am I looking at ? "

Weather or not Bose is a good system is a matter of personal opinion, and personally I'm not very keen on Bose, I believe they use a bunch of "trickery" (wave guide tunnels)to achieve their results, and as a matter of personal opinion I dont believe them to be all that great.
We could keep your factory head unit though, and add an amp and some speakers. Just throwing a rough estimate out there you would probably be looking at just under $1000 for all of the parts and pieces needed to have a quality, excellent sounding system fully installed.
(again, I will reply with some brands later. Ive been exceptionally busy lately)
bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 4:46 PM / IP Logged  
t&t tech wrote:
velocity i was thinkin the same thing, lol, big johnny, don't worry about the costing, just build my system on paper, and i'll tell you if i can afford this, after all it is hypothetical, rightlets play a little game if we can - Page 2 -- posted image.
yeah sorry, don't go somewhere else :) Like i said, Ive been really busy. I'm actually looking into opening a shop, I would have run by someone else though while I remain working.
Can I manage a business? sure, that's not an issue here, my knowledge is. I'm finding that on the technical side of things, there aren't really any issues, and nothing I can't learn damn fast. but on the actual brands, and knowledge of them I'm not so hot.
This is why I would need a business manager who knows that kind of stuff.
What do you guys think of the idea? I know it's easy to make a premature assumption based only on what someone knows of another person on the internet, but there's more to it than that.
and it all leads back to the research I'm doing as time allows.
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 4:49 PM / IP Logged  

bigjohnny, sorry, but this was a trick question. You can't integrate into the OEM Bose system on the new Silverado trucks. Actaully, you can but the sound is crappy if you try to use a LOC because the input signal from the Bose system from the deck is a constant 1/4 watt input and the output is crossed over so little or no bass.

Jeff
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Morden, Manitoba CANADA
bigjohnny 
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 6:35 PM / IP Logged  
Velocity Motors wrote:

bigjohnny, sorry, but this was a trick question. You can't integrate into the OEM Bose system on the new Silverado trucks. Actaully, you can but the sound is crappy if you try to use a LOC because the input signal from the Bose system from the deck is a constant 1/4 watt input and the output is crossed over so little or no bass.

well hey, thanks for that. This is exactly why I started this thread :D
I actually just thought removing the bose system was hard, I remember reading something about them on BMWs and having to do a ton of stuff to remove it.
clearly I have much brushing up to do, but I still wanna try and answer the questions here :)
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 9:59 PM / IP Logged  
lets play a little game if we can - Page 2 -- posted image. 
Jeff
Velocity Custom Home Theater
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Posted: April 28, 2009 at 10:43 PM / IP Logged  
Just remember this when the subject is  BLOSE:  rip it all out and you will feel better in the morning.
Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
ckeeler 
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Posted: April 29, 2009 at 9:33 AM / IP Logged  

Q:  i want something that sounds pretty good in my GMC Jimmy and is loud when i want it to be. i already have an aftermarket deck. my friends all tell me i should get a bandpass box because ill get more bang for my buck and i will be loud...... plus they say a bandpass box has "better" bass, what do you think? i know nothing about car audio, what do you suggest for me? i pretty much just need an enclosure of some sort, i dont know what kind, and an amp to match......i think.....i dont know, you tell me.

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