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bradinar

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Posted: May 27, 2009 at 10:50 AM / IP Logged

haemphyst:

I wonder if you could give me some advice on my setup. I am going to do a single set of components in my front door. I was thinking about mounting my tweeters in the A-pillar to try to bring the sound stage up some but I can't mount them there unless they face the windshield. Would this be a better way to go even though they are way off axis in that location or should I just try to get them up in the door panel as far as possible?

Can you clarify the reversing phase for the tweeter thing alittle? Are you saying that you need to reverse the phase every four inches apart from the mid? So if it were 8 inches away it would be normal phase?

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Good question bro. I was a little unsure of that too.

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Posted: May 27, 2009 at 8:35 PM / IP Logged

oops, bradinar, your post is all bold. Your tweets should be as close to the mids as you can get them, and as close to the same plane as possible...in general. The trick of "bringing up the soundstage" with A-pillar mounted tweets comes in the form of using a second set of 'super' tweets that are crossed over with the tweeters at about 10,000 Hz. Those top tweets can face the windshield when crossed over in that configuration, as that upper freq range might be described as the "airiness" of the sound. But that's probably more marketing to the lazy consumer than it is sound engineering principles. Work with the position of door components using all resources, first.

And, don't rely on measuring...rely on what you hear. A tweeter that is eight inches away from it's sister midwoofer is too far away to be rightly called a sibling. Reverse and unreverse polarity to your heart's content, they are still too far apart.

bombsquad91, you might think about upgrading that pioneer deck to Alpine or Eclipse...since you're saving money using this forum anyway!

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Posted: May 27, 2009 at 8:55 PM / IP Logged

I second stevdart's opinion... When I said 4 inches, that was because of the wavelength (chosen arbitrarily) at 3500Hz. If your crossover point is different, you will have to figure the wavelength (and thus the reversal period) for your situation.

Don't put the tweeters in the A-pillars, please... I know it sounds wierd, but keep them as close together as possible, even if it means mounting the tweeters low in the door. It will sound FAR more homogenous, and really... BETTER!

As far as the reversal every 4 inches, yes, that would mean that if your tweeter's acoustic path length is 8 inches shorter than your mid's acoustic path length, it would mean that your tweeters would be wired as indicated on the crossover. AT 3500HZ! As I said, if your crossover point is different, your "mileage may vary". Note that I am NOT referring to the distance the drivers are located referenced to each other. I am referring specifically to the distance they are from your ear - the acoustic path length.

It all reminds me of something that Molière once said to Guy de Maupassant at a café in Vienna: "That's nice. You should write it down."

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I remember from Mobile Dynamics they recommend doing a staircase effect...putting tweets in the farthest spot back and mids at next step closer to you...Is this a good idea for the doors or kickpanels...?

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Upgrade my head unit??????? There is no upgrading from my head unit. 16 band digital EQ. Auto EQ which measures distance to speaker for staging. HPF, LPF, IPOD Control, Blue Tooth. I've had every brand out there at one point or another. This is by far the best. When I got thus HU I stopped using by beloved DEQ-7600. Upgrade? HA!

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Posted: May 28, 2009 at 4:05 PM / IP Logged

I really want to improve my imaging somehow. Of course my stock locations suck. My speakers are low in the door and if I mount the tweets to the door panel directly above the mids they will actually be pointing down due to the way the door panel is shaped. I was thinking about trying to build some kick panels but the parking brake lever is right in the way on drivers side. Has anyone ever built kick panels for the 97-03 chevy malibu? Does anyone have any other suggestions to get better imaging?

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bombsquad91 wrote:

What are you using? All the processing you describe has nothing to do with the sound quality and indeed may be harming it.

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Agree with most. Focal are too bright. For SQ warm sound is the key. I hate speakers that are so bright you put trebble all the way down and it still hurts your ears. Dynoaudio and CDT Audio would be my choice. I hear a lot about Diamond and JL lately about SQ and warm sound

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Posted: May 30, 2009 at 8:31 AM / IP Logged

Man, where have I been while this post was going on ?? what are the top 3 speaker brands? - Page 3 -- posted image.

My 2 c's goes to Morel Dotechs or the Elate 3 ways for price. If you have money to spare go with the Supremo's. You won't be unhappy. Just make sure that you have enough power going to them and use a Class A/B amp to power them as well.

As far as the Pionner HU's go....... IMO they suck !! Ground plane problems since day one, poor quality face plates & poor customer/dealer support.

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