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there I go again, I said it at the end of my last message. I fail.

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no, i dont have an explorer, but i do have an 01 ranger. do you have the amp mounted behind the 2nd row of seats in the cargo area? and where do you have the amp grounded (paint me a mental image)

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soundnsecurity wrote:

no, i dont have an explorer, but i do have an 01 ranger. do you have the amp mounted behind the 2nd row of seats in the cargo area? and where do you have the amp grounded (paint me a mental image)

The amp is mounted on the back by the tailgate. I drilled my own ground in to the metal on the back about 1.5 feet away from the amp. I scratched the surface up.

Before, it had two separate grounds. Now, I put both grounds in the same spot. (The amp has two remote wires, two positives, and two grounds)

The 0 gauge runs to a distribution block and then dual 4 gauge wires go to the amp.

Perhaps I just need to separate the two grounds?

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chargerondavins wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

no, i dont have an explorer, but i do have an 01 ranger. do you have the amp mounted behind the 2nd row of seats in the cargo area? and where do you have the amp grounded (paint me a mental image)

The amp is mounted on the back by the tailgate. I drilled my own ground in to the metal on the back about 1.5 feet away from the amp. I scratched the surface up.

Before, it had two separate grounds. Now, I put both grounds in the same spot. (The amp has two remote wires, two positives, and two grounds)

The 0 gauge runs to a distribution block and then dual 4 gauge wires go to the amp.

Perhaps I just need to separate the two grounds?

when you say you scratched up the surface, did you scrape it down to clean shiny metal? did you use any sand paper? you might have thought it was metal but if it wasn't shiny then you still had some primer to take off.

you dont need to separate the grounds.

for testing purposes, do you have any spare 4 gauge? you can try to running a longer ground to somewhere closer to the battery. maybe somewhere under the back seat.

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soundnsecurity wrote:

chargerondavins wrote:

soundnsecurity wrote:

no, i dont have an explorer, but i do have an 01 ranger. do you have the amp mounted behind the 2nd row of seats in the cargo area? and where do you have the amp grounded (paint me a mental image)

The amp is mounted on the back by the tailgate. I drilled my own ground in to the metal on the back about 1.5 feet away from the amp. I scratched the surface up.

Before, it had two separate grounds. Now, I put both grounds in the same spot. (The amp has two remote wires, two positives, and two grounds)

The 0 gauge runs to a distribution block and then dual 4 gauge wires go to the amp.

Perhaps I just need to separate the two grounds?

you dont need to separate the grounds.

for testing purposes, do you have any spare 4 gauge? you can try to running a longer ground to somewhere closer to the battery. maybe somewhere under the back seat.

I've used completely different ground wire and everything, the problem persists.

why would having it longer make a difference? The truck will be getting an alarm installed, I'll tell them to run longer ground.

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Longer grounds are not good. I think he may be questioning the integrity of the spot on the vehicle where you have it grounded. A longer wire to another spot (which may be a better ground) was just for testing to determine how well of a ground your current spot is.

I did not read the entire topic, but have we checked the voltage at the amp to see how low it is going when the amp shuts off? Have we determined if the loss is occuring on the power or the ground side of the path? Meter set to DC volts, Red lead on power terminal of the amp. Black lead on the ground terminal of the amp. On the amp not at the chassis. Have someone play it to just below the point of cutting off, and notice the reading. Now move the black lead to the chassis of the car, prefferably not the same point that it is grounded at. Notice that reading too. Post both readings here.

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i dont think he has a meter, so thats whats making this so hard to figure out

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That would make it a bit of a task. Now in hindsight, had we opted for the Dub's instead of the Davin's, maybe we could get a meter.

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That would make it a bit of a task. Now in hindsight, had we opted for the Dub's instead of the Davin's, maybe we could get a meter.

I would also have the same rims as everyone else and they would be uglier.

My sponsors do my work for me, but this time they were having trouble figuring out the problem, so I opted for help.

Why would I buy a meter, for one time use?

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Why would I buy a meter, for one time use?

I can't think of even a single reason.

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