pkfm on '09 f 150

Alright gents: Here's the problem, wondering if anyone has encountered a solution to anything similar.

We completed the VIPER 5901 Security system, but the Remote Start has yet to work. 2009 Ford F-150, ordered the Xpresskit PKFM (2009 model of the 2008 Xpresskit XK04). Here's the deal. I passed by the local Viper dealer (cooky SOB) and told him the problem. He cooked an attitude and said he'd have to rip out my entire installation to re-inspect it. I've wireloomed, taped, cable-tied, etc every wire to the system (it's the cleanest installation anyone would ever do on my truck - no installer will take the time or pride I took in doing so), and the guy said he's going to have to rip it ALL out and re-do it. Not happening.

When I mentioned to him that I have the PKFM, he said that's the problem. He claims that the PKFM is NOT compatible with the 09 F-150, despite the fact that their website claims otherwise. He said they base their "compatibility chart" on "theory" and only hope it will work. He suggests ordering a Universal key immobilizer. Indeed, if this gets the R/S to work, then so be it, but I'd rather get it working with the PKFM and prove him wrong. He's failed at every attempt to get it to work with other 09's.

Any suggestions?

Im sure the guy is not interested in finishing a install you couldn't do.

I wouldl't do it either i don't do half installs due to that ,after finishing your job .

All blame to whatever goes wrong after will be his fault.

I'm not bothered by that. Nothing against installers, but crimping wire color to wire color is the same no matter who does it. I have the exact wire and location that I crimped every wire, so if providing him with a diagram of exactly what's under the loom  isn't enough, then I'll find someone who is willing to work with me or I'll continue to work at it myself. Another guy I talked to said he'd do it, but he wouldn't warranty it.

yimke wrote: PKFM should work for the 09 F150's. You need 2 keys to program. What is the car doing? Is it even cranking? I did one of the first 09 F150's in my area and i did not have correct tech wiring info when it came out. The TX and RX wires were backwards from what was listed. And all my wires I found in the passenger kick, not the ignition switch. Draw me a diagram of what you connected to what if you like But seriously... what is it doing?

yimke: I have the two factory keys. I'm leaning towards thinking that the PKFM isn't even picking up the programming. It doesn't "confirm" the procedure as it says in the instructions for the programming.

The truck isn't cranking. I've swapped the Viper module from its default setting of MANUAL TRANS to AUTO TRANS. When I hit the R/S on the keypad, the remote shows the startup being performed but the unit doesn't do anything. It's not even turning on the dash. As with the universal unit, you could place the key in the ignition and it would read it - with this one you cannot (or at least I can't).

The TX and RX wires may be backwards... I noticed that. I tried to find an actual tech wiring for the 09's but I couldn't so I read it straight out of the FORD 2009 F-150 WIRING MANUAL. But I do have the wires hooked up just behind the ignition switch. (Funny, when I told the installer that I talked to that I hooked up most of my wires at the passenger's kick panel he chuckled and commented that I didn't have to go way over there. I told him it was cleaner that way and less wires underneath my steering column... perfect example of when you do something yourself, you'll do it right. Not saying his install wouldn't be clean, but I know for sure that mine is.)

I'm going to get you a diagram... give me a few minutes. Surely appreciate the assistance.

Primary Harness (H1)

H1/1 (Trunk). RD/WH –N/U

H1/2 (+12V). RD to +12V CON

H1/3 (+Siren). BN to +SIREN

H1/4 (Light Flash). WH/BN to VT/WH

H1/5 (-Chassis). BK to CHASSIS GROUND

H1/6 (+Trigger). VT to DOOR TRIGGERS with diode isolate

H1/7 (Instant Trigger). BU –N/U

H1/8 (-Trigger). GN –N/U

H1/9 (Domelight Supervision). BK/WH to GN/BU

H1/10 (Remote Start). WH/BU --- ???

H1/11 (Parking Lights). WH to VT/WH (-)

H1/12 (Ground When Armed). OG –N/U

Aux Harness (H2)

H2/1 (Factory Disarm). LG/BK –N/U

H2/2 (Factory Arm). LG/WH –N/U

H2/3 (Aux 1). WH/VT –N/U

H2/4 (Aux 2). VT/BK –N/U

H2/5 (Aux 3). WH/BK –N/U

H2/6 (2nd Unlock). LB –N/U

H2/7 (Wait-to-start). GY/BK –N/U

H2/8 (Horn). BN/BK to BU/WH

Heavy Gauge Harness (H3)

H3/1 (Ignition 1). PK to WH/OG

H3/2 (Ignition 2). RD/WH –N/U

H3/3 (Accessory). OG to VT/GN

H3/4 (Starter Input). VT to BU/WH (ignition side)

H3/5 (Starter Output). GN to BU/WH (starter side)

H3/6 (Igntion 1 Relay). RD –N/U

H3/7 (Ignition 2 Relay). PK/WH –N/U

H3/8 (87a). PK/BK –N/U

H3/9 (Acc/Starter Relay). RD/BK –N/U

Remote Start Harness

1 (Neutral). BK/WH to CHASSIS GROUND

2 (Tach). VT/WH –N/U

3 (Brake). BN to VT/WH(+)

4 (Hood Pin). GY to HOODPIN SWITCH

5 (Defogger). BU/WH –N/U

Remote Start Aux Harness

1 (Flex Relay). PK/WH –N/U

2 (Accessory Relay). OG –N/U

3 (Starter Relay). VT –N/U

4 (Ignition 1). PK –N/U

5 (Bypass Module). BU to BYPASS MODULE BROWN WIRE

Bypass Module

PINK (PATS RX) to VT/GY

GREEN (PATS TX) to YE/OG

BROWN to Remote Start Aux #5 BU

ORANGE to H3/1 PK

RED to +12V CON

BLACK to CHASSIS GROUND

Primary Harness (H1)

Aux Harness (H2)

Heavy Gauge Harness (H3)

Remote Start Harness

Remote Start Aux Harness

Bypass Module

The above wires are the ones that I'm unsure of. I don't think I need the TACH wire (according to the manual).

I'll do this in the morning and let you know what's up.

As for the colors of the TX/RX wires, I got those out of the FORD WIRING MANUAL. They are pins 3 and 4 but the connector on the 09's isn't any of the ones in the PK manual. I'm pretty sure it's like E connector, but RX is pin 3 and TX is pin 4.

How do I confirm the flashware of the PK module?