viper 5901 won't rs on 98 integra

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tym1200

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Posted: September 26, 2009 at 10:11 PM / IP Logged

About the immobilizer, i have a 2000 integra and I think 2000 was the first year the immobilizers were standard. I'm not sure if there was an option for one in 98 though. It should be pretty easy to tell. If it has an immobilizer the engine will just keep cranking and not start when you try to RS without the key in the ignition. If you need an immobilizer look into something along the lines of the DEI 556hw, used it on my 2000 teg and its perfect.

howie ll

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Posted: September 27, 2009 at 12:40 AM / IP Logged

It's because you have to break the pink wire. In the clutch left alone position, that pink goes to ground. When pedal is depressed, the circuit is opened enabling the car to be depressed. The simple answer would be to remove that switch completely and see if anything else is affected when the vehicle is running and driving. The correct answer would be to do the following:- status output from R/S to relay 85, ignition via 3amp fuse (use the BLACK / YELLOW from switch to where you joined your R/S Ignition 1 wire), to 86, cut pink from switch to 3o and other side to 87a.

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Posted: September 27, 2009 at 12:56 AM / IP Logged

Your picture of the clutch switch was cool.... but!

Follow those wires up to the clutch relay in te dash, there you will find a wire the same color as the starter wire.

Put your remote start output on THAT wire. I do not know if you need the starter wire on the ign. harness even connected.

gpspro

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Posted: September 27, 2009 at 1:48 AM / IP Logged

Interesting...thanks for your advice KarTuneMan. Before doing what you have just suggested, I have to get back to howie II about the clutch switch as it still doesn't make sense to me. Why did I have to depress the clutch pedal even after the plug that connects to the clutch switch was removed in order to start the engine with the key? If I don't press the clutch pedal, the engine won't start regardless if the clutch switch is connected or not. That makes me believe that there maybe another switch somewhere that also controls the the same circuit???

gpspro

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Posted: September 27, 2009 at 3:03 AM / IP Logged

This is to illustrate what I said above.

viper 5901 won't rs on 98 integra - Page 2 -- posted image.

howie ll

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Posted: September 27, 2009 at 6:22 AM / IP Logged

Follow KTM's instructions, he's THE Honda expert forget about the clutch and go to the BLACK/ white wire he mentions. His word is GOSPEL on Hondas I'm only the BMW man.

gpspro

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Posted: September 28, 2009 at 2:06 AM / IP Logged

Thanks howie II.

Hey KTM, I couldn't find any clutch relay. Did you mean a Starter Cut Relay instead? If so, would you suggest that I connect the Starter Output (H3/4-Violet) to BLACK/ White at the Starter Cut Relay as follows:

So what I should do is to disconnect the Red dot and connect the Violet wire to the BLUE dot as shown in the diagram above, correct?

moonliter

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Posted: September 28, 2009 at 10:42 AM / IP Logged

The red dot & blue dot shown on the diagram is actually the same BLACK/ white wire. You should run the starter output (H3/4- violet) directly to the starter cut relay BLACK/ red wire which is on terminal 3. terminal 4 (blue/black) of the starter cut relay goes to clutch interlock switch then to ground (black).

On your car, there should be 2 clutch switches if it comes with a cruise control. That explains why it didn't work b/c you were working on the wrong clutch switch.

gpspro

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Posted: September 29, 2009 at 12:48 AM / IP Logged

Thank you moonliter. Yes, you're right. This car has a cruise control, a clutch switch and a clutch interlock switch. And yes, terminal 4 goes to the clutch interlock switch directly. Terminal 3 actually connects to the BLACK/ White at the starter solenoid. So by connecting the Violet to terminal 3, you are essentially connecting it to the starter solenoid directly. So looks like you've been working on Integra Generation 3 before. Is that all I have to do? and no clutch bypass is needed for my car? Could you kindly double-check my connections (at the start of this post) to see if I missed anything please before I start to reconnect my Violet wire?

moonliter

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Posted: September 30, 2009 at 3:26 AM / IP Logged

I try to attach a pdf file re : 98 Integra starting circuit but the file was too big. If you pm me your email address,

I can send over for you to review.

Heavy gauge connector:

H3/6 & 9 to 12 volt constant ---- white wire at the ign sw harness

H3/3 to accessory ---- yellow wire at the ign sw harness

H3/1 to ignitin 1 ---- BLACK / YELLOW at the ign sw harness

H3/4 to starter ---- blue/red bypassing the starter cut relay ( clutch bypass relay if you want to call it )

H3/2, 7 & 8 are not needed as your car doesn't have ignition 2.

E- brake & door trigger (-) lt.GREEN/ red must be connected for manual car

I believed you had tach connected, hood switch, door lock/unlock wires should be straight forward.

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