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hello, is it possible to turn on two lights, each on a seperate circuit, together with one switch and still retain the ability to turn them on and off independantly?
example: have three switches total, first switch turns on/off light #1, second turns on/off light #2, and third turns on/off both light #1 and light #2
is this possible and if so how can I achive this?
thanks
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Do you need to ever have both lights on at the same time?  If not, I can do this with 2 switches. 
two12 
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yes, Im using lights as an example.
I need two circuits to function both independently as mentioned and together with one switch.
any 12volt experts on here?
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Posted: November 27, 2009 at 11:52 PM / IP Logged  

No but I'll answer your question anyway.  The answer is no.  If you connect two circuits to one switch it will parallel the circuits  Look through the vast array of switch configurations that are available for something that fits your needs.  You are probably looking for one throw, but two switches.

When asking for forum help it is better to describe your actual case rather than using an "example" that isn't actually what you are doing.

Build the box so that it performs well in the worst case scenario and, in return, it will reward you at all times.
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Posted: November 28, 2009 at 2:59 AM / IP Logged  

two seprate circuits, one switch? -- posted image.

And 2 of these, all available at RadioShack.

two seprate circuits, one switch? -- posted image.

But you will still need to find a 12 volt expert to wire it up.

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Posted: November 28, 2009 at 8:12 AM / IP Logged  
If they each have equal priority, I reckon it can be done with 3 push buttons.
Problem is, if #1 is on, & #2 is off, does #3 turn both on or both off?
If you want #3 to turn both on, that's easy enough with 3 on-off switches & 2 diodes, but for #3 to switch both off requires both #1 & #2 off.
If you define what you want (ie, a logic, truth or state table), an answer is possible.
two12 
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Posted: November 28, 2009 at 8:14 PM / IP Logged  
I say "using lights as an example" because the loads could be anything it doesnt matter and I dont want to confuse the question but I'll get into that later. I've many more unusual questions for the forum thats why Im looking for expert advice.
first things first.
a specialized switch wont work for me. the first two switches need to be in seperate onboard locations and the third via remote control.
switch #1 and #2 will generally be off when turning on #3
lets see what we can come up with here! this is just the warm up thread. Im not a 12volt novice by any means but I still have much to learn and Im really thinking out of the box on this project so just wait till you get a load of some of my next questions LOL
thanks
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Posted: November 28, 2009 at 8:16 PM / IP Logged  
Topic: two seprate circuits, one switch?  I am confused.
two12 
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i am an idiot wrote:
Topic: two seprate circuits, one switch? I am confused.
no youre "an idiot" couldnt resist..
I tried to squeeze in a good title but the forum doesnt allow enough spaces for one so it is what it is.
so what would i am an idiot name this topic? I'll change it if I can and it gets results.
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You use lights as an example, but how much current draw are you trying to design this to control?
Kevin Pierson
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