viper 5901

The 5901 is newly installed in a '99 Civic DX hatchback 5 speed. Everything works on it, parking lights flash, horn, siren, doors unlock/lock, I can program it, I can set off the alarm etc... But I cannot start the car with the key. If I jumper the H3 Green and Violet wires together it will start (bypasses brain/returns starter wire back to stock). So I need to know how to check that relay, I measured the starter's 12volts at the brain when the key was turned to start (keyside wire), it just doesn't make it to the car side wire. I used the wiring information from this website. What would be really nice is a schematic of the brain in general. What else could be wrong that the brain won't allow it to start with the key?

Just went out and rechecked the wiring.

H3/1 Pink - BLACK / YELLOW

H3/2 RED / White -12Volt constant

H3/3 Orange - WHITE/ Black  ........... also tried Yellow*

H3/4 Violet - BLACK/ White car side of starter wire

H3/5 Green - BLACK/ White key side of starter wire

H3/6 Red - 12Volt constant

H3/7 Pink/White - Yellow ........ also tried WHITE/ Black*  (switching H3/7 with H3/3)

H3/8 Pink/Black ---- Not connected

H3/9 RED / Black - 12Volt constant.

-----Programmed Flex Relay H3/7 to Accessory 2 -------

I posted that (the car will start with the violet and green jumpered) in the first post..... but what you said about the Ignition 2 had me puzzled, I tested the wires in all key positions and I knew that only one wire had ignition and start voltage, and that was the BLACK / YELLOW wire in the H3/1 position. So I did a quick test and got the car to start .... this is how it was wired to key start.

H3/1 Pink - WHITE/ Black                                             12 volts reads at key positions: 1, 2

H3/2 RED / White - Constant 12volts

H3/3 Orange - BLACK / YELLOW                                      12 volts reads at key positions: 2, Start

H3/4 Violet - BLACK/ White  starter car side

H3/5 Green - BLACK/ White starter key side                                                                           Start

H3/6 Red - Constant 12volts

H3/7 Pink/White - Yellow                                            12 volts reads at key positions: 2

H3/8 Pink/Black - No Connection

H3/9 RED / Black - Constant 12volts

So I'm not sure if it's wired correctly, but it did start.

disconnect both the purple and green wires.

connect green to a constant 12v source and disarm the system. If the relay is defective, there will no 12v reading on the purple wire. if there is continuity the wire is fine. and when you arm it, the voltage should drop to zero.

Howie II:  H3/7 is the programmable line, Flex Relay function set to 1: (ignition 2 **factory default) functions the same as the Pink Ignition 1 wire. Flex Relay function set to 2: functions the same as the Orange Accessory 1 wire. Flex Relay function set to 3: functions the same as the Purple Starter 1 wire. I have it programmed to 2.

Tedmond: I left the wiring as it was in my second post (how I was able to key start the car). I removed the Green wire and put a Radio Shack 12 volt (13.8 volt reading) power supply to it. The Purple wire read the 13.8 volts with the key out and Disarmed. Then turning the key, key position 1 was zero, 2 was zero, and Start was 13.8 volts. When the system was Armed I measured 13.8 volts at the purple wire with no key in.