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spudsmac 
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Posted: September 06, 2010 at 10:41 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks for the help so far. I put everything back together and tucked everything up under the dash (somehow I'm left with 4 screws though... ) There are a couple loose ends I have to tie up one weekend.
Fix the problem of the starter not engaging. IDK if it's due to the tach not reading right or what.
Connect the brake wire to the unit. I thought the XH01 took care of that, but the brake won't stop the starter.
Connect the parking lights to the H1 harness. Again, I thought the XH01 module took care of that too, but the parking lights don't come on when remote start is initiated, nor during the panic feature.
Figure out why the PKH34 module is not bypassing the transponder.
Calibrate the sensors. Got it on silent mode tonight.
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 08, 2010 at 8:58 PM / IP Logged  
Ok, got the brake wire hooked up, PKH34 bypass module working (had to connect the brown GWR wire to status output from Viper brain) and the parking lights working.
On the parking lights, I just connected it to the + just above the fuse box in the driver side kick panel.
The wiring diagram said the brake wire was + and in the 42 pin white plug above the fuse box, but it just read +12v at rest, then went to ground when the pedal was pressed. I just connected the brake wire straight to the brake switch and it works great.
The only problem I have now is the starter is too quick to disengage. Sometimes it just kicks in and won't even go long enough to start it. The viper unit doesn't know better and give me an engine running confirmation (can lead to dead battery if you don't know). I set the starter crank time to 1.0 sec and turned off anti-grind and it still cuts out early. I'm using Virtual Tach and also reset that and recalibrated it according to the instructions, but no luck yet.
I tried to measure a fuel injector and ignition coil, but they both just read a constant +14v DC and 30v AC when running on the non-common wire. Any ideas?
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Posted: September 08, 2010 at 9:26 PM / IP Logged  

This info from Bulldog Security:

 
  TACH         BLUE             @ ECM/PCM See NOTE *2
   
NOTE *2  THE ECM/PCM IS ON THE FRONT OF THE TRANSMISSION TUNNEL.THE CONNECTORS ARE ON THE PASSENGER SIDE.
                   THE TACH WIRE IS IN THE WHITE 31 PIN CONNECTOR E, PIN 25.

This info from AudioVox:

Tachometer  BLUE  (AC)  AT PCM MODULE IN FRONT OF CENTER CONSOLE UNDER DASH -  Pin 25

This connection ( PCM ) is inside the car.  ( No firewall, heat, vibration, etc...)

Soldering is fun!
spudsmac 
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Posted: September 08, 2010 at 9:32 PM / IP Logged  
Yeah I know it's there, but it's too tight of an area to work in comfortably.
Think it's why it's not always starting?
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Posted: September 08, 2010 at 11:56 PM / IP Logged  

I always try to run in Tach mode.  Hondas' crank time can vary a lot.  No problems when its very cold, the R/S always cranks the car long enough. 

As a side note, the Tach wire is one of the few places where you can "try it" without hurting anything.  The R/S Tach wire is high impedence input and does not affect the wire it's attached to.  This connection should be soldered, especially if it's at a coil or F.I.  I would go to any convenient F.I.  They only have 2 wires, so just connect to the non common color wire and try to Tach Learn the Viper ( while the car is at a warm engine idle ).  Remember to re-program the Viper to Tach mode.

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spudsmac 
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Thanks for all the help. I ran the tach wire to one of the coils and it works every time. I'm trying to wrap up a few loose ends since I have been able to use the system for a couple weeks.
First off:
1) I need to know a good location for the Doubleguard shock sensor since the one in the brain is not sensitive enough even on the highest setting. Should I epoxy it to the frame somewhere?
2) I have an extra siren. Any ideas as to where I should mount it? It's the piezo one. Should I run a wire and just splice in anywhere on the Viper siren or should I run the wire to the siren wire inside the car so someone can't cut it from under the car?
3) Comfort closure- How do I get that to work with my car? I can close the windows by putting the key in the door and locking it twice and holding it. I have the KP Technology window up module for my car, but it has never worked. Maybe I can mess with that and get it to work with 2 lock pulses?
4) Defroster and seat heater aux outputs- How do you connect that? Does the brain power them or just activate the switch? The defroster has a button and seat heaters have a switch.
5) Any way to relocate the temp probe? I don't know who decided we cared what temp it is behind the dash....
6) Horn - I want to hook the horn up to an aux output. I can't find the wire in the steering column. Any ideas? (This is my last priority)
7) Sunroof closure - Any idea how I would go about hooking it up to close when I lock it, like with the comfort closure?
I know this is a lot of stuff, but I want to wrap it up pretty soon so I can make a DIY for this car. Thanks in advance!
spudsmac 
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Posted: October 07, 2010 at 1:12 PM / IP Logged  
Bump. Anyone?
spudsmac 
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Posted: October 16, 2010 at 3:03 PM / IP Logged  
I'm getting ready to mount the shock sensor. Any experience with locations for it in a TSX or Accord?
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Posted: October 16, 2010 at 10:56 PM / IP Logged  

the ignition wire loom.

thats where i mounted mine on my 09 accord (same vehicle). fromt he ignition loom, trace it down and it will bend towards the left towards the fuse box. i have it around the bend area, so i can access it by sticking my head unde the dash to adjust if needed.

Ted
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