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atomicspark 
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Posted: November 03, 2010 at 7:50 PM / IP Logged  
Hey guys, I have a 88 firebird that i am trying to install a Clifford 3.3X on... The alarm is working correctly however the Remote start is another problem... I have the starter and ignition wires hooked up correctly but when i hit the button on the remote it acts as if im turning the key but wont crank. I have also noticed that the fuel pump is not engaging prior to the crank. This vehicle does not have VATS on it because there is not a chip in the key.
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
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Posted: November 03, 2010 at 9:35 PM / IP Logged  
What wires have you attached from the Clifford harness to the ignition harness ?
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atomicspark 
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Posted: November 03, 2010 at 10:21 PM / IP Logged  
Wires are as follows
Primary harness (H1), 12-pin connector
RED / WHITE - NC
RED - +12 CONSTANT
BROWN - Siren
WHITE/ BROWN - Light Switch
BLACK - Ground
VIOLET - NC
BLUE - NC
GREEN - Door Switch
BLACK/ WHITE - NC
WHITE/ BLUE - NC
WHITE - Park Light
ORANGE - NC
Auxiliary harness (H2), 8-pin connector
I dont have this harness hooked up...
Door lock harness, 3-pin connector
BLUE - Lock
GREEN - Un-Lock
Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector
Pink - Pink Ignition 1
RED / Wht - NC
Orange - The HVAC 12+
Violet - Car side of the starter
Green - Key side of the Starter
Red - 12+ hot from Harness
Pink/Wht - NC
Pink/Blk - NC
Remote start input, 5-pin connector
Blk/Wht - Ground
Violet/Wht - Tach
Brown - Brake
Gray - Hood Pin
Blue/Wht - NC
Remote start auxiliary output, 5-pin
I dont have this hooked up either...
Thanks alot Velocity Motors!
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     Battery          RED          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS          
     Ignition 1          PINK          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS          
     Accessory 1          ORANGE          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS          
     Starter 1          YELLOW          (+)          IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS
what do you have hooked to each of those wires?
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Posted: November 04, 2010 at 7:28 AM / IP Logged  
Not familiar with the unit but isn't the RED / WHITE suppose to go to a 12 volt constant on the H3 connector?
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howie ll 
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Posted: November 04, 2010 at 7:46 AM / IP Logged  
Yes also, and this seems to be a common problem, atomic spark, please power up RED / white.
howie ll 
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Sorry my internet access is screwed up, I knew there was something missing here I had to down load the wiring diagramme from DEI, it's
H3/9 RED / BLACK, power it up, it feeds starter and accessory.
The RED / white on H/3 Jeff feeds the flex relay and thus isn't used here.
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Posted: November 04, 2010 at 9:38 AM / IP Logged  
I thought there was suppose to be 2 12 volts leads on the DEI stuff. Regardless, your missing one of the two 12 volts as Howie stated above.
Jeff
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atomicspark 
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Posted: November 04, 2010 at 10:36 AM / IP Logged  
okay so i hook up the RED / black to a constant 12+ and the RED / white isnt used in this application right? Thanks so much for the replies
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Posted: November 04, 2010 at 10:55 AM / IP Logged  
3 12v+ inputs on the R/S side:
Red for ignition.
RED / Black for start and ACC
RED / white for flex relay.
Atomic spark, correct.
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