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blanx218 
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Posted: December 15, 2010 at 12:57 PM / IP Logged  
What do u mean why isn't it safe? The neutral safety wire is a way the remote start knows its safe to start. Most installers just ground that wire. Or connect it to ground thru a toggle switch. The remote start you have IS NOT meant for a manual transmission plain and simple. You are taking a risk by installing it on that car and adding alot of work for yourself. You can get a unit that has manual transmission capabilities and do it right but it's your call. You asked for insight and we are giving it to you
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Posted: December 15, 2010 at 9:38 PM / IP Logged  
blanx218 wrote:
What do u mean why isn't it safe? The neutral safety wire is a way the remote start knows its safe to start. Most installers just ground that wire. Or connect it to ground thru a toggle switch. The remote start you have IS NOT meant for a manual transmission plain and simple. You are taking a risk by installing it on that car and adding alot of work for yourself. You can get a unit that has manual transmission capabilities and do it right but it's your call. You asked for insight and we are giving it to you
As the diagram shown on first post, if gear is not on park/neutral(means no ground on switch), how can it start? So why isn't it safe?
Thanks blanx
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Posted: December 15, 2010 at 11:21 PM / IP Logged  
Well you COULD hook it up to the vehicles actual neutral safety switch. but obviously you aren't competent enough because you don't eve know where that would be located. So therefore you should go ahead and just buy a 5101 or better.
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Posted: December 16, 2010 at 10:24 AM / IP Logged  
zerepdivad wrote:
Well you COULD hook it up to the vehicles actual neutral safety switch. but obviously you aren't competent enough because you don't eve know where that would be located. So therefore you should go ahead and just buy a 5101 or better.
Is it difficut to locate the actual neutral switch?
Some vehicles equiped with cruise. During cruise, if in neutral, cruise will be canceled. There should be one wire detects neutral and goes to cruise control. Is it easy for those vehicles?
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Posted: December 16, 2010 at 11:43 AM / IP Logged  
those don't quite detect neutral but they detect the clutch being pressed.
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Posted: December 16, 2010 at 2:07 PM / IP Logged  
zerepdivad wrote:
those don't quite detect neutral but they detect the clutch being pressed.
I see some vehicles really have that switch.
likes pic below, also have actual switch let ECU knows it is neutral
viper 4103 on manual trans - Page 2 -- posted image.
viper 4103 on manual trans - Page 2 -- posted image.
viper 4103 on manual trans - Page 2 -- posted image.
In those vehicles equiped with actuall neutral switch, I guess it is safe enough for 4103XV, because only neutral position pressed this switch seeing ground.
But I am not sure I am right...just get some info online about this.
Thanks for your help
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