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sheety 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 4:16 AM / IP Logged  
I don't see what relevance the vehicle has, but it's a 1992 Nissan 300zx. The alarm has 32 wires and the insulation is black on all of them.
http://www.avscarsecurity.com/alarms/info/s_series_range_avs_s5_alarm/
howie ll 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 4:21 AM / IP Logged  
Oh that's OK then you're quite right all vehicles have exactly the same wiring, ignition, locking systems etc. with all the same colours.
All black from NZ? you're good at bad puns are you.
Did any one actually consider labelling the wiring when it was removed from the previous vehicle? Doh.
sheety 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 4:27 AM / IP Logged  
hahaha. I didn't have time to label the wires, regretting it now!! I would just buy another one, but the new ones here don't come with installation instructions because they don't want to compromise the 5 star rating. So the only way to get it installed is by using an AVS registered technician. BS if you ask me.
howie ll 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 5:23 AM / IP Logged  
There are ways to test the leads but I think you're on a hiding to nothing here, I believe you have 3 cuts under Oz/NZ rules, we only have 2 under Thatcham Cat 1 (and even that's excessive, a modern car with factory immobiliser should be more than adequate).
Also we only have to have the cuts, power, ignition trigger and grounds (earths) black, you can sort them with a meter.
If it was a DEI product, I would gladly help.
Rule 1 when I remove I heat shrink the different function wires with combinations of red, yellow, blue and black heat shrink.
OK, I'm a pro and you've obviously learnt that trick after the event, no point in rubbing it in, but, can you at least get a marked replacement loom?
sheety 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 5:36 AM / IP Logged  
I can buy a $20 alarm new made in china, but a) I don't get discount from insurance and b) the cheap kits have the immobilizer aka standard 4 pin relay separate from the main box.
Looking at either Uniden or Mongoose now. But first have a little fun destroying a $500 alarm
howie ll 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 6:01 AM / IP Logged  
That's the problem but then over here only people like myself can issue the insurance validation certificates.
Chinese, not with a barge pole, trouble is Oz/Nz is a specialisedmarket, Viper make 1 unit available for that market and it's rubbish!
The product here (UK and Europe) is still the best, Clifford with Clifford's software, not re-branded Viper/Python.
Uniden is quite a respected brand though.
Problem is the Japanese never really went for immobilisation in their home market, auto-theft being rare and from what I can gather, your region is sinking under grey imports from Japan, hence the stringent rules.
At least bench that alarm, connect up the antenna and LED, find the two wires that are common, they will be your earths, that's a start.
Find a pair that pulse 12 volts on arm and disarm, that's your indicators, find three that trigger the siren when grounded about 1 minute after arming, that's your hood, door and trunk triggers, you see where this is going....
P.S. Trade cost on a UK Spec Clifford Concept 650 Mk ll is £170 plus tax (20%)including remote start, and that's about 50% more than the US equivalent! About £500-650 installed inc. remote start.
sheety 
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Posted: November 26, 2011 at 2:13 PM / IP Logged  
Here's what I know
1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24
1 sends 1 pulse when armed (sounds like door lock trigger)
2,5,12,23,24 are continuously -
3,13,20,22 are continuously +
6,14 are for the indicators
11 triggers alarm when grounded
19 continuously grounded when armed (is this for the siren?)
There are four other spade terminals on the board with two wires on each, so total of 8 wires. These are connected to 2 relays which are the biggest on the board. I can't seem to find any continuity or voltage with any any wires. Not even with each other
Cheers
Paul
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