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cubanthug 
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Posted: January 17, 2011 at 2:05 PM / IP Logged  
this goes to everyone stop helping or these first timer that is why alot of installer loosing jobs and the business going down the drain most real installers had to pay to go to school so please stop helping all the guys that want to do it themselves and don't know where to start
cubanthug
oldspark 
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Posted: January 17, 2011 at 3:17 PM / IP Logged  
Could you provide some stat or evidence for that?
For fairness, it would be good to include the amount of work we, er, they - generate thru DIYers that stuff up more than they save. (That is really what this site is for - generating work for installers!)
But keep the facts hereon - do NOT go public.
Recently a prominent local called Gerry Harvey (the Harvey-Norman chain) went public about how eBayers are avoiding local Australian taxes and businesses by buying overseas. (Apparently at the time his wife was in New York doing lots of "cheap" shopping!!)
It turns out only ~1.5% of Australian purchases is/was via eBay and overseas.
But now that has jumped considerably because more people are aware of cheaper prices.... thanks to Gerry Harvey's publicity!   
Yes Gerry - just as you want to pay imported workers half the pay of locals, we too want to pay less!
Some say Gerry is a sour idiot. I reckon he has shares in eBay and Australia Post.
POST EDIT - Google gerry harvey
The first return is...
Gerry Harvey - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Gerry Harvey (born 18 September 1939) is an Australian richardhead best-known for being the executive chairman of Harvey Norman Holdings Ltd., a large company ...
[ richard is used above because this site does not like its abbreviated version. But Google does not censor it.... ]
I'm keen to mention the above because I know see - with MUCH hindsight and experience - how those that complain the most or try their hardest to prevent certain things are those that do the most damage - if not to the industry or group as a whole, certainly to themselves. Poor Gerry is an alleged example, but I think too of a few unfortunates in Asian jails for apparent drug crimes....
Be careful what you wish for....
howie ll 
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Posted: January 23, 2011 at 7:42 AM / IP Logged  
Oh come on, I love taking the whiz (do you think the censors will change this a word that rhymes with miss?) out of the "please help me, tell me every step and hold my hand" newbies.
Frankly the most blatant ones tend to be ignored, the stupids get barred.
howie ll 
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Posted: January 23, 2011 at 8:28 AM / IP Logged  
Now Cubanthug, go to the archive section, most popular posts, no 54, 8 pages and 5 months on an R/S install into BMW, especially when I told the guy to extend the lock pulse and he asked how far.
KPierson 
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Location: Ohio, United States
Posted: January 23, 2011 at 10:12 AM / IP Logged  
Perhaps the DIYers are discouraged from going to "professional" installers because the "professional" installers can't use proper grammar, punctuation, or spelling?
do it yourselfers -- posted image.
Kevin Pierson
howie ll 
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Posted: January 23, 2011 at 10:38 AM / IP Logged  
Ah interesting point, most "platinums" (platinae?) including yourself use really good grammar and syntax.
I find an answer given in say your's or Luongo's concise style to be a reflection on the quality of your (good) work.
I hope you were referring to some install shops rather than the people here.
Mike M2 
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Posted: January 24, 2011 at 6:43 PM / IP Logged  
Hehehe, 4 posts and not one period or capital letter....
Mike M2
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i am an idiot 
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Posted: January 24, 2011 at 7:24 PM / IP Logged  
Even I use periods and Capital Letters.
howie ll 
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Posted: January 25, 2011 at 12:19 AM / IP Logged  
None of us opened with "Hi" or "So I", the last phrase really sticks in my throat.
i am an idiot 
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Posted: January 25, 2011 at 3:47 AM / IP Logged  
That is funny Howie.
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