problems, dball, 09 accord

Hello all, I am installing a Viper 5901 into a 2009 Honda Accord.  I am using the DBALL for the bypass.  When I connect the 4 wires to the DBALL (as per the instructions) and then insert the D2D wire while holding the programming buttone to initate the programming sequence, the LED on the DBALL turns orange like it is supposed to. Then when I let go of the button it should turn solid red (and it does).  Then I turn the key to ignition, and the light stays solid red (the problem).  This indicates (per the trouble shooting guide) that the pink ignition wire from the DBALL is not connected.  The pink wire is connected to the large blue wire coming out of the ignition switch on the Honda.  The Tan wire is connected to the blue CAN low wire, the tan/black wire is connected to the pink CAN high wire, and the ORANGE / black wire is connected to the lt. green IMMO data wire.  When I turn the key to ignition, the cars large blue wire from the ignition powers up and so does the pink wire connected to the DBALL.  But the red led never turns green to initiate the programming sequence.  Any idea's on what I can do?

Did you solder your connections to the vehicle CAN and IMMO wires? The bypass will 'start' programming but needs to identify the CAN bus if these connections are not good it may not be able to program. Did you flash the module yourself? Maybe a re-flash would help.Installer, IT support, and FFL. I need less hobbies.

They are soldered and the module was up to date per the seller about 1 week and a half ago.  The bypass led light stays red and never goes to green to start the programming.  I can try and take it somewhere to have it flashed.

I checked, you don't need to connect the pink wire to the ignition wire since, according to the instruction manual, it passes through the D2D connector. I that still does work, re-flash the dball, this installation is pretty straight forward. Good luckSylvain Rochon

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Thats what I thought.  It looked very strait forward when you look at the installation paperwork.  It does say to hook up the pink wire (pin 9) to an ignition source that is hooked up to the remote start.  That is what I was trying to do.  I dont know why it is not letting me program it.  I will try and find someone to re-flash it for me and see what happens.  Thanks

I presume that you're connected to the orange plug of the Viper? I think that the module needs re-flashing. Have it done and you should have no problem after. You seem to have done all the proper connections. One thing you can try is making all the w2w connections and try re-reprogramming it. Maybe there is a problem with the data line. That mean that you'll have to connect 12v, ground, out when running, lock, unlock, trunk, brake, hood and ignition. You know what, just connect 12v, ground and ignition. Leave all the other harnesses plugged to the dball except for the data d2d wire and try to reprogram the dball and see what happens.Sylvain Rochon

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Which orange plug on the viper 5901:

-H1/12 (-) 500mA  ground when armed output

-H3/3 (+) acc output

-Remote start auxiliary output, 5 pin connector - (-)200 mA accessory output.

I will try and have the module reflashed too.

The d2d data plug...orange color or even light red.Sylvain Rochon

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I did plug in the d2d plug from the DBALL to the VIper.  It is a 4 wire plug: (+)12v, RX, (-) groung, and TX.

There is a ORANGE / black wire for the immobilizer data that is hooked up to the lt green wire in the car.

On the viper 5901, what of these do you think i can avoid connecting, I connected all of the bold one:

Primary harness (H1), 12-pin connector

H1/1 RED / WHITE (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUTH1/2 RED (+)12v CONSTANT INPUT

H1/3 BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT

H1/4 WHITE/ BROWN LIGHT FLASH ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relayH1/5 BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND

H1/6 VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUTH1/7 BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUTH1/8 GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUTH1/9 BLACK/ WHITE (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT OUTPUTH1/10 WHITE/ BLUE (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUTH1/11 WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUTH1/12 ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT

Auxiliary harness (H2), 8-pin connector

H2/1 LIGHT GREEN/ BLACK (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM DISARM OUTPUTH2/2 LIGHT GREEN / WHITE (-) 200mA FACTORY ALARM ARM OUTPUTH2/3 WHITE/ VIOLET (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUTH2/4 VIOLET/BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUTH2/5 WHITE/ BLACK (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUTH2/6 LIGHT BLUE (-) 200mA 2ND UNLOCK OUTPUTH2/7 GRAY/BLACK (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUTH2/8 BROWN / BLACK (-) 200Ma HORN HONK OUTPUT

Heavy gauge remote start, (H3) 10-pin connector

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT

H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY INPUT 87H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUTH3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)

H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL WIRE)

H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUTH3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2 / FLEX RELAY OUTPUTH3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A key side (if required) of FLEX RELAYH3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A) ACCESSORY/STARTER INPUTH3/10 NC (no connection)NC

Remote start input, 5-pin connector

1 BLACK/ WHITE (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH INPUT2 VIOLET/WHITE TACHOMETER INPUT WIRE3 BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT WIRE4 GRAY N/O or N/C (-) HOOD PIN SWITCH INPUT5 BLUE/WHITE (-) 200 mA 2ND STATUS/REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT

Remote start auxiliary output, 5-pin

1 PINK/WHITE (-) 200mA FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT2 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT3 VIOLET (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT4 PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT5 BLUE (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT

Door lock harness, 3-pin connector

1 BLUE (+) LOCK (-) UNLOCK OUTPUT2 EMPTY NOT USED3 GREEN (-) LOCK (+) UNLOCK OUTPUT