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First Alarm, 97 Honda Civic


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howie ll 
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Posted: August 30, 2011 at 10:25 AM / IP Logged  
Read Kevin's last post ref: stopping the process. I still don't think it's the 520t.
zerovandez 
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I'll disconnect it from the trigger as soon as I get home to test. I was using those wire taps before to tap into the door/trunk trigger, tach, and brake. I've removed them and used solder instead. I've tested all connections after soldering and all triggers are working as they should.

Over rev? Maybe this is because the car is not warm yet? Cold idle RPM starts at around 1.5k, after it warms up it will idle to around 800-1k RPM. Should I wait until it's warm?

A reputable source has advised me of the 520T problem. This source is well known in the Honda forums and has helped me just as you all have with other things. I've researched this problem online, and although not common, it does show as being a problem for some installations. Again, information is really scarce regarding this.

Howie, I'm understanding your concern about the longer heavy gauge power wires. What should I test for?

howie ll 
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Check the voltage at the heavy gauge fused wires and the alarm red if present, set your pos probe to the plugs at the alarm etc. and your neg. to the alarm's black wire.
If that reads below 12.3 you've got problems.
howie ll 
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One phrase in connection with joints. SOLDER SOLDER SOLDER. And read KP's posts in the archives on how to solder.
zerovandez 
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Yeah, I've soldered many times before with R/C cars and other hobbies. I'ved checked the voltages to the connections and they do show voltage above 12.3v when the car is off (no alternator running, engine off).

I agree, this is the longest thread ever. I just want to get things done right. I hope this thread helps someone in the future.

howie ll 
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Good so that eliminates 1 possible problem.
zerovandez 
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For more info, the car doesn't even attempt to crank in the final process of the MTS initiation procedure (after stepping out of the vehicle, and pressing the lock button on the remote). Not sure if this would show any problems.

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What I would advise, and this is for testing only, is to put it in auto transmission mode. You need to determine if the the problem is with the remote start or the manual transmission interface.
How did you bypass the clutch switch?
As Howie said, solder everything. T-taps and scotchlocks are just asking for problems.
Howie, I have a thread in the archive about soldering??????
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howie ll 
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Kevin, General Discussion, how to solder etc. the last post with a great picture.
That thread and the next on joining wires should be required reading along with any of Chris Luongo's how to posts and ahem mine "All rookies" etc. which is in the Security Hot Topics Section
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Thanks KP, I'll do that as well after I test the instant trigger.

The clutch switch is activated by ground. There's 2 wires, just jump them together. Yeah I've removed the Ttaps and soldered the connections and tested them very thorougly. They all work as they should. Not sure how to test the tach wire besides for continuity back to the alarm brain with a DMM.

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