2009 vibe remote start

Hi All, I'm new to the forum. I'm buying a basic ProStart CT-3271 (http://www.autostart.ca/prostart/prod-en_CT-3200.php) remote starter for the '09 vibe. I understand I might need a security bypass? I'm not sure what the '09 vibe has (i.e. PLI, PLII, VATS, etc...). I was checking out the XpressKit bypass system (http://www.xpresskit.com/categories.aspx?categoryid=2) but I'm not sure which one to get. Is this combination going to work (ProStart and XpressKit)? These two devices will be about $170 total. Is there a better package out there for the 09 vibe? Thanks, Richard

As far as the bypass goes, you will need one. If you have access to a XKLoader-2 update device then you can get the xpresskit DB-ALL and it will make life a lot easier. But it needs to be flashed with the proper firmware which requires the XKLoader. If you do not have access to the XKLoader then you can get the PK-ALL which will do your immobilizer bypass but will not integrate the door locks, or any other feature like the DB-ALL will. It will also require 2 keys to program. As far as pricing, I've been getting all of my remote start parts (install them on the side) from Amazon. I've been getting the Python 4103 as a nice basic remote start / keyless entry system for around $60. Or you can get the upgraded Python 1401 unit for around $80. Then the bypass is usually around another $60 or so.Kenny

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KKD Garage LLC

Albany, NY 12205

Hi again, ok, I bought the PK-ALL and the Prostart basic 2 button. I just want to start and stop the car with it. XpressKit instructions are not clear. For my purposes (start only), will I need to connect the D2D harness between the XpressKit and the ProStart? Thanks,

the pkall is a rebranded fortin key override all. good bypass to use. the d2d cable wont do you any good as its only offering ground, 12v and ground when running. i would rather snip off the end and physically connect them. a compustar pro p1wg4-ss with bypass for 230 if installed by me. i can help you out if you are in the GTATed

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Thanks, I'll do that. So I have 2 conenctions (the +12V and GND from the D2D harness after cutting the cable) good stuff. For the other PKALL connector, it looks like (from the instructions) it needs 4 connections to the car? I'll list them below along with where I think they are supposed to be connected to the car (2009 Vibe): (1) Rx(Data In): (2) Tx (Data out): (3) while running(-): (4) Key Sense: "Sense Wire (-): 'Dark Blue' Location: Ignition Switch Harness" Well, actually after looking I don't know where the 1,2,3 wires are. I have all the wiring lists for the '09 vibe from several sites but none have a wire called Data In/Out or "while running"... Is there another name on these wires? Thanks,

(1) rx is located at white 7pin plug into the transponder ring. Pin 4 (2) tx located in the same 7 pin plug as rx, pin number 5. note, you have the correct connector if pin 3 is empty. (3) while running(-) connect that to the BLUE (-) status output form the python unit. (4) key sense look for a small white or black connector with 2 wires in it. One will have a WHITE/ black wire and a blue wire. Connect keysense to the blue wire next to the WHITE/ blackTed

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Thanks Tedmond, question however... Where would I find the transponder ring? Also, you say 'while running' is BLUE from the Python, however I don't have a Python, I have a ProStart (http://www.autostart.ca/prostart/prod-en_CT-3200.php and attached picture of wiring). I don't see a 'status output' wire from the remote starter. Could this be going to a different wire on this unit?

The transponder ring is on the vehicle at the ignition switch.  The PKALL bypass works in Data mode on the RX & TX wires.Soldering is fun!

Thanks again. Sounds like all these wires are in the steering column? Still though, how about the: "(3) while running(-)" wire from the PKALL. Where does this connect? I have a prostart remote starter, there's no sign of a "while running(-)" wire coming out of it, unless it's called something else. Here's the wires I have coming from the prostart:

Use 10- White.....(-) GROUND when running output.