first off, merry Christmas and happy holidays to everyone here at the12volt.
I'm just curious as to what you installers stock for bypass modules? and i would like to share my experiences using the xpresskits DBALL
I personally stock:
iDataLink: ADS-AL-CA, ADS-DL, Blade-AL/TB
Fortin: Key-Override-All, Honda-SL3, EVO-CAN/ALL/CHR
the other day a Directed rep suggested I switch to the Xpresskits DBALL. I was at first hesitant... only because the xpresskits are not up to date as idatalink for platform/vehicle support. Also for the price of a DBALL compared to an EVO or ADS-AL-CA, it was significantly cheaper(almost half). I have always hardwired and will stick to it, but for the case of the half dozen viper units, these were done d2d to test ONLY.
So i took half a dozen DBALL/5901 units to test with family and or family friends cars. I install compustar personally. With that with the XK-Loader usb cable to update. The first car I took on was a 2009 Mitsubishi Lancer Ralli-Art MT. Using a viper 5901 and the DBALL in D2D(i know d2d sucks, but just testing purposes) And voila, the car does not go into reservation mode. Programs fine but it only picks up door triggers/locks/trunk release. The start portion such as tach, Ebrake, Brake Shutdown dont seem to work. So F-it, I do my traditional w2w and still no go. In the end i ended up running brake shutdown, ebrake and tach seperately to the car and it works fine. Mind you I had this car for 2 days since its a friends car.
second car (family friend): 2010 Acura MDX sport with 5901 D2D and it works as expected. All triggers, hatch, start/immobilizer, disarm/arm with oem remotes etc. Installed in about 70 mins call it luck but this is the only car that worked without problems.
third car (friend): 2010 Lancer Evo-X 5901/DBALL in D2D minus the tach, brake and ebrake which is hardwired to car. Also works as expected and i learned after the first lancer
fourth car (family friend): 2009 Honda Civic EX everything was D2D, but trunk doesn't pop so i just hardwired it. and what i don't like about this is when you start, the door unlocks and locks instantly. this prevents oem alarm from going off; whereas the idatalink ads-al-ca would just disarm via databus (CAN) and no doors would be unlocked. I verified to know it was infact the DBALL that unlocks,locks,start since when i tap the GWR to ground, it does that exact sequence (minus start)
fifth car Nissan Altima 06 (family friend). Everything works good, but no door locks. DBALL receives the command (flashing green light) but no functionality on the car. In the end i run wires into the door for door locks. car is on its way. I did my aunts 06 altima last week with an EVO-CAN and compustar and everything worked through CAN as expected, and it was wired w2w.
still have one left, so lets see what i get next.
In conclusion, the Viper 5901 is a nice unit, but sorry to all the xpresskit lovers, the DBALL is a POS from my personal experiences. I've never had issues with idatalink and fortin. Sure these pieces cost more, but in the end i never had problems which is my greatest concern, probably for any installer as well. If they tweaked the unit and possibly perfected the programming, i would consider dropping the EVO series for a DBALL replacement.
As always, share your experiences and happy holidays.
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