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baytonemus 
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Posted: January 16, 2012 at 8:26 PM / IP Logged  
I gave up and installed the pin that came with the kit. I might regret it, but I'm SO anxious to get this finished.
Same with the tach wire. I just wasn't sure so I ran it to an injector.
Do you agree about grounding out the neutral safety wire? The Viper instructions said to test the remote starter with the key at run and the vehicle in gear - ebrake on and ready to punch the foot brake. If said if it won't start, the wire does not need to be connected.
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Posted: January 16, 2012 at 8:27 PM / IP Logged  
I can almost guarantee your Hyundai will not start in gear. If you want to be safe then test it, other wise just ground that wire. Running the aftermarket hood pin won't hurt... just know that you may need to replace it down the road. And the injector is perfectly fine for the tach.
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 12:26 AM / IP Logged  
Well, I got it working. Hard to believe, I know. For the benefit of anyone who might read this thread in the future, here are a few more details...
HOOD PIN
This was kind of a pain. I never could get the green wire in the passenger's kick to test out properly so I decided to install the one that came with the kit. This wasn't easy either. There was almost nowhere on the driver's side to install this where you would have access to be able to screw the nut onto the bottom of the pin rod as well as adequate vertical clearance for the pin to operate properly.
I ended up removing the bolt that holds the front brace/bracket to the fender, then tapping that out so I could screw the pin rod into it. Added both a flat and lock washer to secure it. Had to solder the wire onto the tab at the bottom of the pin but it works just fine.
MANUAL TRANSMISSION MODE
This the default setting and it produced a seven parking lights flash error when I first tried to use the remote start. The installation instructions do describe how to change this to automatic. After getting this reset, I got the next error.
NEUTRAL SAFETY SWITCH WIRE
Until I grounded this wire I got an eight flash error. Once that was taken care of, it started right up.
I'd like to thank everyone who chimed in and took pity on me, specifically shortcircuit and especially offroad Kenny. In retrospect, I had no business attempting this. The next one would go much more smoothly, of course, but after climbing in and out of this car and laying in one extruciating position after another for three days, I'm not sure I ever want to do it again.
My sincere thanks!
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 5:34 AM / IP Logged  
Yup... welcome to the fun of installing remote starters. My back is probably permanently "scarred" from some of the strangest positions that no human being should ever be able to get into... lol. Glad you were able to get everything working!
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 6:30 AM / IP Logged  
Congratulations on getting it all setup and working!! As Kenny said (and many others know) we have to be skilled in the art of contortionism to install in some of these vehicles.
Thanks guys for helping out on this one. My time's been crazy lately with installs.
baytonemus, the hood pin wire I could never find in the kick panel either so i went straight to the factory hood pin and soldered into the green wire there and diode isolated my wire (just food for thought at this point).
Great job though!! Welcome to our world, proud to have you onboard!
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 6:37 AM / IP Logged  
The easiest one I ever had (contortionism wise) was I believe an 04 Grand Caravan. It was a handicapped vehicle so there was no driver seat (the wheelchair locked into place for the driver). I was able to lay down perfectly flat (I'm a short guy) right along the driver side. I rested my head on the brake pedal and made 90% of the connections like that. I must say, it was quite comfortable compared to the normal install.
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baytonemus 
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 10:18 AM / IP Logged  
I had the seat out and I also removed the metal bracket that sits behind and at the bottom of that panel under the steering column. If I hadn't done that, I would probably be at least a "person of interest" in one or more local murders.
Out of curiosity, what would this install have cost me if a pro had done it? I think I paid $140 for the rs (on eBay).
Also, how old are you contortionists? Actions have different consequences at 50+ than they do when you're in your 20s and 30s...
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 11:14 AM / IP Logged  
What do you recommend doing with the unused wires? Cut 'em? Wrap 'em up? Tape the ends?
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 11:29 AM / IP Logged  
As far as wires go, I usually cut them off at about 6" and then tape them off separately, then together. The length leaves me enough to extend if I ever need to in the future.
Cost really depends on the area. Me personally (i do all my installs on the side, not through a shop) would normally charge between $200 and $220 for that car including parts and labor. A shop in the area around me would probably be around $300ish.
I'm 26 and I've been contorting for many years (was a gymnast from age 3 til the end of high school). And thanks to sports, and I'm sure some remote starters, I already have lower back issues... so yea, 50 is really going to suck for me... lol.
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Posted: January 17, 2012 at 11:57 AM / IP Logged  
I agree with Kenny on the wires. Same process I use. Always leave some wire for future use and tape them individually and then bundle them all together to keep it neat.
I'm 34 and love what I do. I've been installing for a couple of years and also own/run a Home Automation business (never a dull moment). I can't say I don't get those moments where I wonder "what was I thinking", but I wouldn't trade it for anything.
Most installs I charge about $225-250 for a basic 1-way starter, bypass and labor. All work is done on-site at the customer's home or office.
Even though I feel 50's is PLENTY young, much kudos for doing it on your own!! A lot of people I know and help feel that once they reach their 20's or 30's, they have to run from things.
Congrats again!!
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