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viper 5901, 2005 montana sv6


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black_bird94 
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I have everything prepped and ready to go.  I found all of my wires and location for the brain.  I found all of my connnections at the bcm.  I have another question tho.  I found my starter wire at the bcm, but I don't see the end that goes to the igniton.  I'm not sure which side is the key side and which side is the car side.

does it go  car> bcm > key    or does it go bcm> car> ignition harness.  Or, should I just use the starter wire at the ignition harness.  Worse case, if I get it wrong, can I reverse the wires without harming the vehicle? The few cars I worked on electrically had thick guage wiring but this van has all thing guage.

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You have to run the other heavy gauge wires to the ignition harness anyways correct? You might as well take the starter wire there as well. On some vehicles (not sure about this one specifically) you cannot use the starter wire at the BCM for remote start.
Otherwise you should be able to test the wire after you have cut it. The side that shows +12v when turning the key to the start position will be your key side. The other is the ignition side.
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black_bird94 
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I dont see any heavy gauge wires on this vehicle.  The ignition harness is small guage wiring also, like 22 guage small.  I can show pics, should I not connect to these wires.  On the online wiring guides, it says to use the bcm wires or ignition wires, they are both the same gauge.

I have ran into a problem.  I tested my hood wire and it was normally open until the hood came up and I got 12 volts.  I connected everything up roughly and turned the units on.  I'm getting a constant 12 Volts at the hood pin wire, so the viper thinks my hood is always open.  Dont know why.  I programed the idata to two flashed and then when I went to confirm the w2w, I got a single red flash.  

What works on the van so far are the power locks, parking lights that is all.  The triggers are not working, and the door status' are not working.  They are not showing on the remote when something is open.  Any words of advice?

black_bird94 
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Connections

I datalink      to Viper

door status output    Door trgger input

trunk status output   Trunk pin trigger input

ignition           ignition 1

Ground out when running    200mA door status output

Ground          Ground

12 V   12V

Lock arm input 500mA lock output

Unlock disarm input  500mA unlock output

tach output     Tach input

Orange to Car's data

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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 6:07 PM / IP Logged  

iDatalink bypass Ground When Running Blue/White wire goes to Viper Blue (-) 200mA Status Output.

Did you connect the Viper H3/1 Pink ( also has iDatalink's Pink Ign wire attached ) to the van's Pink Ignition wire?

Does not sound like the bypass programmed properly.  Try a Factory Reset, Install Mode set & lock, then program

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black_bird94 
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These are my connections to the van

12v Constant

Brown siren output

Ground

(-) parking light output

(-) 200mA horn honk output

Ignition 1 input/output

flex relay input

violet and green starter outs

ignition 1 input

accessory starter relay input

(-) hood pin

brake shutdown input

neutral safety input to ground

black_bird94 
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Ya I connected the blue and the pink wires just like that.  I will try the factory reset.  Any idea about my hood pin problem or does this not usually happen, lol. 

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Oh, whats install mode set and lock? is that where i start the van and press the bottom after registering w2w mode
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Follow the guide to do a Factory Reset.  At Step 5, after the LED goes Red for 2 seconds and then goes out, the LED starts blinking a one blink Green pattern.  Press the button once, the LED will start doing a two blink patern.  Press and hold the button to lock that in.  Then continue to Step 6 and then on to actual vehicle programming with the key.
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 7:03 PM / IP Logged  

Strange about the Hood Pin.  Did you connect to this wire?

Hood Pin     Pink/Black(-)        @ BCM, Black 52 pin plug (C1), pin 26

To test, connect the DMM Red lead to +12V constant and the Black lead to the Pinl/Black wire.  With the hood closed you should see 0V.  With the hood open, it should be +12V.  You can always run the Vipers Hood Pin wire to your own hood pin ( supplied with R/S system ).   I can send you some if you don't have one. ( I don't use them, I prefer to install a mercury tilt switch. )

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