delay accessory for cold starts

personally, i sand down the soldered on terminal as well. only because some ship with a coating so just to be safe, i give it quick sanding. Sometimes i dont use factory bolts. Depending on the vehicle (some may disagree) my ground i tap into the bare metal dash bar support. It's welded to the frame so i know it's a solid ground. I drill a hold and put a machine bolt through and tighten it good. Never had an issued with a car returning. I do this most of the times,but there are vehicles where majority of the wires are at the kick panel; the ground will be run with others, just for a cleaner install, and easy of access. when you scrape the paint, make sure it goes to bare metal, not just a light scuff.Ted

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I have used the bare dash supports in the past, but you have to be careful when doing so. Most are welded, but some are bolted through a rubber washer to allow some movement (my ram was like this) so you don't get a solid ground. But that is rare so you are usually ok.Kenny

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I just checked again, my sequence is definitely as follows:- Immediately Indicators (lights) 1 sec., 2 clicks. 2 secs., ignition. 3 secs., start. 1 second after start and run, ACC. Just proves how much more sophisticated my 10 year old kludged together AMERICAN designed and made Clifford was against the opposition and I have the option of ign or RPM locking. Also to answer someone else's post in the relay section, I have 20 minutes not 10 of RAP which I can program off if desired and no RAP after.

so i hook up the voltmeter to the battery.  Activate the R/S, several attempts, drops to 10.1 volts.  Get in the van, turn on AC unit, take more readings, drops to 9.5 volts.  Turn on heated seats, drops to 8.5 volts.  i can only imagine how low it dropped when i had the navi and dvd hooked up on accessory 2.

Sounds like i need an optima yellow?  Or is there anything other test i should do before i change the battery?

As for the ground, i put the wires in a ring terminal, found a bare metal dash support bar with holes, so i did like Tedmond said and put a machine bolt/nut.

The ground will be better off this way anyways, but I would have to say you are looking at a bad battery. Optimas are excellent batteries but you don't HAVE to go with that one. Just don't get another Honda factory battery.. haha.Kenny

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any aftermarket brand battery will work. an optima is more of a high end battery, but thats up to you to decide. a battery from walmart, sears, canadian tire, napa will do. oem batteries are undersized.Ted

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Undersized? I changed a Mopar battery from a 2.8L Voyager DIESEL the other week, 380CCA couldn't believe the battery had lasted this long, 5volts on crank! I replaced it with a 550CCA. All OEM batteries, just like OEM alternators are made "just good enough".

in my vehicle i believe its undersized. its probably just good enough, but you would be shocked by the battery tray size, vs. the batt size itself.Ted

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If it is not your ground or battery, my 951 I just installed in an Acura has an option to keep ACC off during wait to start. Freaked me out because I had inadvertently turned that option on and I got no accessories the first time I tried to remote start until after it had started.

Your unit may have this option as well. This should leave all ACC power off until the car is started.

We have already determined that it is the battery. A voltage drop down to 9._ Volts during start is a rather large drop. One that the battery should not do no matter what the accessory state is during remote start. We have also already confirmed that the ACC is dropping during crank...Kenny

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