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viper 5901 wiring into 94 celica


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dasbogie 
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Is this celica a manual transmission?  I believe the manual for the 5901 is posted on this site in the downloads section
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ask92 
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Yes its a manual. I have all the documentation for the 5901 and have searched every one for "reservation mode" with no avail.
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7 light flashes means its in manual transmission mode but reservation mode has not been initialised.

If the vehicle has a manual transmission the proper steps must be followed

before leaving the parked vehicle or the remote start feature is disabled.

1. Make sure the engine is running and the doors on the vehicle are closed.

2. Put the transmission in neutral.

3. Press on the foot brake in the vehicle.

4. Apply the emergency brake.

5. Release the foot brake.

Note: Pressing the brake pedal again after this step will disable the remote start feature.

6. Within 15 seconds activate the remote start from the remote.

7. The parking lights flash 5-times confirming that the remote start is active.

If the parking lights do not flash 5-times, then repeat steps 1 - 6.

8. Turn off the ignition (the car stays running when key is turned off).

9. exit vehicle

10. Arm the alarm (the vehicle should shut off when arming the system).

if the alarm is triggered whilst armed then the now set reservation mode will be cancelled as the alarm assumes someone may have gained access into the vehicle and potentially could have knocked the transmission into gear which would be a potential risk if remote started so you would have to disarm and go through the steps from 1 to 10 again after an alarm trigger

tony_g 
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page 28 of the user/owners guide in case its needed for future reference
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Additional info :   ( From 5901 Install Guide )

Remote start MTS mode failure

The remote emits a failure notification when trying to enable the manual transmission
mode or the vehicle fails to stay remote started when the key is turned off.
Possible causes are:
• Hood Open (gray wire).
• Foot Brake active (brown wire).
• No Parking Brake input, BLACK/ white neutral safety wire not showing ground with parking brake set.
• Tachometer is not hooked up or programmed.    ****
• The unit has not been programmed for tachometer mode   ****
• Toggle switch not installed or not in the ON position.

As you can see, the Viper monitors and uses the following signals to enable Manual Transmission Mode : 

Neutral Safety Switch input, Brake Pedal and Door Trigger ( either + or - )    All of these inputs must be connected.

****  As noted, for Manual Tranmission Mode,  the Vipers Engine Checking Mode must be set to Tach  ( Menu 3, Item 2,

Option 4 ) and the Tach Learn  process successfully completed. 

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ask92 
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Ok I am almost positive I have done those steps before and nothing happened, so ill check all my wiring today. My other issue is the parking lights are not hooked up, so I dont know when they flash. The person that helped me install the alarm(from here) seemed to imply they are not required. If someone could look the wiring over and tell me which wires need to be connected for the parking lights to work I would greatly appreciate it. Thank you the12volt.com!!!!
Link to the wiring
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Parking Lights :  Set the Vipers internal Parking Light fuse/jumper to (-)

Locate and verify this wire :  Parking Lights (-)        Light Green          @ steering column

Connect the Vipers H1/11 White wire to the above wire. ( H1/4 is not used.)

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ask92 
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Ok so I got the parking wires all working now. However now when I have everything fully hooked up and the clutch switch just simply shorted when I turn the key to start the car normally the starter just continues to spin and I have to unhook the battery. I am thinking I have something setup wrong with h3.
Here is the diagram:
viper 5901 wiring into 94 celica - Page 4 -- posted image.
The questionable wires are H3/4 which I have connected directly to the start signal wire in the engine bay. Correct or not?
h3/5 is hooked up to to the wire that is said to be starter near the ignition itself.
H3/2,h3/6 and h3/9 are all connected directly to 12 volts. Correct or not?
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All connections should be made at the steering column / ignition switch harness.

All wires should be verified before making any connections.   ( Info from Bulldog Security.)

Viper H3 harness     '94 Celica

H3/1 PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT    BLACK/ Orange @ Ignition Switch
H3/2 RED / WHITE (+) FUSED (30A)       White @ Ignition Switch
H3/3 ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT       Gray @ Ignition Switch
H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)     BLACK/ White @ Ignition Switch - cut  **
H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)         BLACK/ White @ Ignition Switch - cut  **
H3/6 RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT         BLACK/ Red @ Ignition Switch
H3/7 PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2        Blue/Red @ Ignition Switch  ***
H3/8 PINK/BLACK (+) FLEX RELAY 87A         Not Used
H3/9 RED / BLACK (+) FUSED (30A)    White @ Ignition Switch
H3/10 NC (no connection)

** Note that Starter Kill / Anti-Grind is optional.  If you don't want / need this

feature, do not cut the Celica's BLACK/ White Starter wire and only connect / use
the Vipers H3/4 Violet wire ( H3/5 would not be connected / used ).

*** Viper default is H3/7 = Ignition2   Verify this programming option.

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Posted: May 24, 2012 at 2:51 PM / IP Logged  

Very IMPORTANT warning :  

"Just shorting" the clutch pedal interlock switch is very bad.  Your car

will now start with the key, without the clutch pedal depressed.  This is
very dangerous if the transmission is not in neutral.  Please reference
Note 3 from the original instructions that were given in the link you posted
and implement that relay for safeties sake.

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