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genexis 
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Posted: January 21, 2012 at 6:48 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
Hi all,
I'm really in need of some help. I purchased a Easycar alarm E7B with pushstart and remote start from a dealer and i was intending to install it on my KIA Cerato Forte 1.6L 2010 EX Model. This will not be the first time I install a alarm system in this car, previously i have successfully installed a Viper 5701 (of course with the advice given by this form).
The car manual can be done via this link: HERE
Ok here is the problem:
After connecting up, i can't seem to PUSH start or REMOTE start. According to the manual, there is a signal code: 6 flashes, which means that the HOOD is open. However, I can't find any HOOD Sensing wire in the manual nor on the brain unit itself. I really need help desperately, can't seem to find any other information from anywhere else.
Anybody familiar with this? THe brain unit model is M7700B, which i believe it is used for easycar alarm E772AS and E7B.
Thanks in advance!
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 5:23 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
anybody able to help?
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 5:58 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote offroadzj
how did you connect the parking brake wire? Is the vehicle an automatic or manual? If it is an automatic, did you cut the jumper wire inside the brain?
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genexis 
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 6:45 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
Hi, thanks for the reply!
Based On the wiring from this forum, there isn't a parking brake wire. Hence I just grounded the wire. However, the error returned from the signal is 6 flashes, which means hood. No idea why it is this way though... There isn't hood sensing in the brain unit.
Yes I cut the jumper wire in the alarm.
Here is a summary of the issues from another email I wrote:
1) Push start not working
After connecting up all the required wires, i stepped on my foot brake, all doors are closed, trunk also closed, and i push the start button for 1 second. However, it keeps returning with signal error: 3 flashes - which according to the manual means that my door isn't closed properly. However, i am 100% certain that it is not an issue with the door sensing as my intruder alert feature works fine (alert sounds if door is opened when system is ARMED).
The manual says that i can by-pass the eBRAKE with i step on the foot brake and hold the start button for 4 seconds. When this happens, i get another error (6 signal flashes) that means the hood is OPEN! But for E7B, there isn't any HOOD sensing! Details in problem #2 below.
2) Remote start not working
Just like the PUSH START, remote start doesn't' work too. I closed all my doors, trunk and hood (no sensing), pushed button II for 2 seconds, but it gives the error signal (3 chirps/signals, then follow by the 6 signals) which means that the HOOD is not closed. However, based on the manual and the inputs of the brain unit, THERE ISNT ANY HOOD SENSING! Is there something wrong with the BRAIN unit? Looking at the manual, it says that E7B should NOT have hood sensing! But how come there is an error code that says HOOD is OPEN? Is the brain unit faulty? Or is it for the wrong model? 
3) ACC doesn't turn off when i put the key in
According to the manual, PUSH start button can be installed if i CUT the ACC wire of the car, and connect the key side and the engine side of the ACC wire to CN1 and CN4 respectively. After that, i need to cut my key and turn it to the ACC. However, when i do this, the lights do not turn off even when the push button is set to OFF. I think something is wrong with the brain unit. Please correct if i am wrong …
4) Auto lock/unlock sensing
The AUTO lock and unlock feature works. When i go near the car, about 1 meter away, it will unlock. HOWEVER, when i walk away, it doesn't lock immediately. I have already followed the manual and configure the "TIME TO REARMING" to 0 seconds. But it still takes about 30 seconds before fit locks, after i walk far away.
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 7:44 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote tedmond
for what its worth, youre better off switching to a different brand of starters thats reliable. i looked at the install guide, and i wouldnt even bother installing it. thats just my opinion.
looks like you have a defected unit. its indicating hood, when their is no hood trigger input from what i see.
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genexis 
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 7:56 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
Hi, that would be something that I'll consider. I'm kinda hoping that
Somebody else with experience with this e7b have faced the
Same issue and have found a way to get around to it.
Thanks.
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 9:12 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote offroadzj
I would have to agree that it is a problem with the unit. Get a decent aftermarket unit with a good bypass (fortin or idatalink) and you will have a much more reliable unit.
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genexis 
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 9:38 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
Oh shucks ... looks like i have to go without a proper alarm for now. I used to have the Viper 5701, but i really like the push start and passive lock/unlock function of the E7B.
My car doesn't need a bypass, there isn't any inbuild immobilizer.
offroadzj: Have you had any experience installing the E7B? Ever had this issue before? Did you wire up your parking brake wire to something that is -12V? I cannot seem to find this wire at all ...
genexis 
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 10:35 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
Wiring:
CN1:
1: Connect to STARTER wire of car
2: Not connected
3: Connect to ignition
4: 12v constant supply
5: Connect to Engine side of ACC
6: 12v constant supply (same as 4)
CN2:
1-5: int
6: ground
CN3:
1: Door unlock signal (-)
2: Door lock signal (-)
3: Signal light (+)
4: Not connected
5: Trunk relay
6: Connected to siren
7: Key sense (ground when key inserted)
8: Not connected
9: Not connected
10: Ground
CN4:
1: Not connected
2: Not connected
3: brake light wire (+12V when stepped)
4: Not connected because #5 is connected
5: Door trigger input (-)
6: ground
7: Connected to key side of ACC wire
8: Not connected
9: Trunk trigger (-)
CN9:
1-5: all not connected for now.
CN5-8, 10, 11: Connected to accessories provided
genexis 
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Posted: January 23, 2012 at 12:14 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote genexis
Hi,
thanks. ive checked it out. the instructions are pretty clear. however, it says that it doesnt provide the ignition system. what does that mean? do i still need the key for this to work?
anyway, back to the problem that i am facing, i'm still hoping that somebody with experience on the e7b will be able to give me some pointers.
On the side note, the ignition wire output from the brain unit comes connected to a relay:
85: connected to ignition output from the brain, also shorted with 87a
86: where should i connect this to?
87a: should i connect this to ignition wire of my car?
30: where should i connect this to?
There is no instructions in the manual as to how i should be connecting this. anybody able to shed some light?
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