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mario595 
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Posted: February 05, 2012 at 1:21 AM / IP Logged  

The Viper 530T window automation system is controlled by channel 3 of the Viper 211 keyless entry system.

From what I understand you can set the Viper 211 to honk the horn when the system is armed/disarmed or not. (Although I am not sure how to set it not to honk) You can override the setting by pressing AUX (channel 2) prior to arm or disarm. Let's say you have the system setup not to honk on arm/disarm. The AUX button can get the system to honk for one instance by pressing it just prior to arm/disarm.

I want to use channel 2 to control a trunk release. The manual states that you have to press for longer than 1.5 seconds before the output wire grounds. Does that mean that if you press it for less than 1.5 seconds you can still use it to override the honk setting

pts760 
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Posted: February 06, 2012 at 2:02 PM / IP Logged  
That is correct. Press AUX for less than a second for audible mode and hold for 1.5 seconds for trunk pop
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mario595 
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Posted: February 06, 2012 at 4:23 PM / IP Logged  

How do you switch between audible mode on arm/disarm? I don't see it as a system Feature number:

1 Ignition-controlled door lock ON Ignition-controlled door lock OFF

2 Ignition-controlled door unlock ON Ignition-controlled door unlock OFF
3 Ignition-controlled domelight ON Ignition-controlled domelight OFF
4 0.8 second door lock pulses 3.5 second door lock pulses/0.4 sec.
5 Double pulse unlock OFF Double pulse unlock ON
6 Double pulse lock OFF Double pulse lock ON
7 Comfort closure OFF Comfort closure ON
8 Code Hopping ON Code Hopping OFF

pts760 
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Posted: February 06, 2012 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged  
It's not a programmable feature. You have to hold AUX for a second before you arm/disarm the vehicle. This should toggle back and forth between audible/silent mode.
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mario595 
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Posted: February 06, 2012 at 4:46 PM / IP Logged  

So when you press the aux before arm/disarm it switches between audilbe/silent mode instead of overriding for that one instance?

It maintains that setting then switches to the opposite setting the next time you press aux before arm/disarm?

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Posted: February 06, 2012 at 5:15 PM / IP Logged  
According to the manual you have to perform that function everytime you want to want to engage silent mode. Another terrible DEI design. You're better off disconnecting the horn wire.
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mario595 
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Posted: February 07, 2012 at 12:14 AM / IP Logged  

Ok,

I am not interested in panic mode so disconnecting the horn is not a big deal. I was going to reprogram the buttons so I had arm, disarm, output 2, and output 3. I would like to add another output to control a relay for something else but am out of outputs

I see that DEI makes systems under several brands. Is there a keyless entry system that could give me an output for the 530T , another for the trunk release, and a third that I can use for this other function?

Thanks.

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Posted: February 07, 2012 at 11:57 PM / IP Logged  
Why do you only want a keyless entry system? DEI allows for several aux outputs for something with a remote start, along with compustar (their security units also allow this flexibility). Also what are you trying to control with a relay that you don't have a output for?
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mario595 
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Posted: February 08, 2012 at 9:39 AM / IP Logged  

Basically a radiator fan and water pump. The car is not an every day driver. I sometimes want to cool the motor down after the car is off. I usually have to get into and out of the car to flip a switch which is a hassle with the roll cage. I was going to build a circuit that would just leave it on for a fixed amount of time but I would prefer to control it at will. This fan and pump together take up HUGE amperage and can run the battery down fast. Therefore I want an on demand system. I used to do the same thing back in 1988 with my clifford alarm.

 I know how to build the latching relay cicuit I just need the extra output.

The car is from the 80s but is far from stock. I have my own way to disable it if I am not going to be close by. I am in the process of re-wiring the entire vehicle and am looking for the cheapest way to lock/unlock, 530T for window functions, trunk release, and a third ground output to work the cooling system with the car off.  I like the light and possibly horn verification for arming but don't care for panic.  The Viper 211 + 530T gives me everything I want except the 3rd output. What other DEI system gives me 3 outputs?

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Posted: February 08, 2012 at 11:18 AM / IP Logged  
If your desire to run the waterpump/fans on demand is due to vehicle cooling, why don't you integrate a temperature controlled switch to do all the work for you. Then you can decide if you want to "arm" the engine off cooling feature or leave it off.
Or look for a cheap turbo timer and wire it up to control your Fan and water pump relay. They usually run on a pre-set or adjustable count down timer.
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