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howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 3:15 AM / IP Logged  
I agree but I don't understand it, it's the same basic design as the 57/59 01 02 04 so WHY is there a current limitation?
You're correct I think in what you say, let me know if it works please.
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Hi here is my wire list I hope I have it all going to the right places. If some one can verify how I hooked up the sensors id greatly appreciate it or if there any errors.
I would really like to figure how to wire-up the turbo timer wire on H2/21?
Viper Wire (5904)     Wire discreption (5904) DEI MODULES  Toyota Wire color Wire Location Extra Notes
Main Harness (H1), 6-pin connector
H1/1  RED (+)12VDC CONSTANT INPUT      (+) GRAY 12V OUTPUT 520T; (+) RED 507M; (+)RED 515R; (+)12V 620V     BLACK (+) and WHITE/ RED (+)     @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
H1/2  BLACK (-) CHASSIS GROUND (-) BLACK GROUND 520T; (-) BLACK 514N; (-)BLACK 515R;   chassis ground
H1/3  BROWN (+) SIREN OUTPUT (+) RED 514N SIREN; (+) VIOLET 515R BACKUP SIREN/BATTERY;   
H1/4  WHITE/ BROWN      PARKING LIGHT ISOLATION WIRE - PIN 87a of onboard relay      unknown/unused     ?
H1/5  WHITE PARKING LIGHT OUTPUT Dark Green      Driver's Kick Panel     
H1/6  ORANGE (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT      (-) BLUE OUTPUT TO CONTROL MODULE DEI BACKUP BATTERY 520T; (-) BLACK 620V VIPER INDICATOR LIGHT     ?
H2 Harness, 24-pin connector
H2/1  PINK/WHITE      (-) 200mA IGNITION/FLEX RELAY CONTROL OUTPUT      unknown/unused     Not used
H2/2  BLACK/ WHITE      (-) NEUTRAL SAFETY INPUT  YELLOW /GREEN(PARK AND T-CASE NEUTRAL) or RED / BLUE(PARK ONLY)     trans parklight parklight cluster?     
H2/3  BLUE/WHITE      (-) 200mA 2ND STATUS /REAR DEFOGGER OUTPUT  BLUE/ORANGE     defogger switch?     
H2/4  GREEN/ BLACK      (-) 200mA OEM ALARM DISARM OUTPUT      no factory alarm     not used
H2/5  RED / WHITE      (-) 200mA TRUNK RELEASE OUTPUT not used
H2/6  GREEN (-) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT (N/C* OR N/O)       RED / YELLOW (-)       IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL     
H2/7  BLACK / YELLOW      (-) 200mA DOME LIGHT SUPERVISION OUTPUT  RED / YELLOW (-)       IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL     
H2/8  BROWN / BLACK      (-) 200mA HORN HONK OUTPUT  GREEN/ BLUE (-)   Steering Column      
H2/9  DARK BLUE      (-) 200mA STATUS OUTPUT      unknown/unused     ?
H2/10  PINK (-) 200mA IGNITION 1 OUTPUT      unknown/unused   
H2/11  WHITE/ BLACK      (-) 200mA AUX 3 OUTPUT not used
H2/12  VIOLET (+) DOOR TRIGGER INPUT    RED / YELLOW (-)       IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL     
H2/13  WHITE/ VIOLET      (-) 200mA AUX 1 OUTPUT not iused
H2/14  VIOLET/BLACK      (-) 200mA AUX 2 OUTPUT not used
H2/15  ORANGE / BLACK      (-) 200mA AUX 4 OUTPUT not used
H2/16  BROWN (+) BRAKE SHUTDOWN INPUT  GREEN / WHITE   Brake Switch      
H2/17  GREY (-) HOOD PIN INPUT (N/C OR N/O)      hood pin viper kit     hood pin
H2/18  VIOLET / YELLOW      (-) 200mA STARTER OUTPUT      unknown/unused     ?
H2/19  BLUE (-) TRUNK PIN/ INSTANT TRIGGER INPUT (N/C OR N/O)      (-) BLUE 570M TILT SENSOR   RED / YELLOW (-)       IN DRIVERS KICK PANEL     
H2/20  GREY/BLACK      (-) DIESEL WAIT TO START INPUT  yellow/white (-) Glow plug light on cluster     
H2/21  WHITE/ BLUE      (-) REMOTE START/ TURBO TIMER ACTIVATION INPUT truck is a turbo diesel but don’t know where to put this wire.
H2/22  ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT      (-) ORANGE 570M TILT SENSOR   
H2/23  VIOLET/WHITE      TACHOMETER INPUT    Black        Behind cluster     
H2/24  GREEN / WHITE      (-) 200mA OEM ALARM ARM OUTPUT      no facory alarm     no factory alarm not used
Remote Start, (H3) 10-pin connector
H3/1  PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT  BLACK / YELLOW (+)           @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
H3/2  RED / WHITE      (87) FLEX RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED) IGNITIION2          blk/grn or blk/red           @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
H3/3  ORANGE (+) ACCESSORY OUTPUT    BLUE/RED (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      
H3/4  VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)          BLACK/ WHITE (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      
H3/5  GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL)          BLACK/ WHITE (+)      @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS      
H3/6  RED IGNITION 1 +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)       BLACK / YELLOW (+) @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
H3/7  PINK/WHITE      (30) FLEX RELAY OUTPUT (car side of ign, acc or starter wire) IGNITION2        blk/grn or blk/red           @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
H3/8  PINK/BLACK      (87a) FLEX RELAY INPUT (key side of ign, acc or starter wire if needed)        unknown/unused  
H3/9  RED / BLACK      ACCESSORY/STARTER RELAY +12V INPUT (30A FUSED)  BLACK (+) and WHITE/ RED (+)     @ IGNITION SWITCH HARNESS     
H3/10  NC      No Connection        
Door Lock, 3-pin connector
1  BLUE      (-) 500mA UNLOCK OUTPUT    blu/yel & blu/org      IN DRIVERS DOOR HARNESS     Both wires must be used and diode isolated.
2  EMPTY      NOT USED        
3  GREEN      (-) 500mA LOCK OUTPUT         blue/black      IN DRIVERS DOOR HARNESS     
     SENSOR 1     506T AUDIO SENSOR   
     SENSOR 1     SHOCKSENSOR DAISY CHAINED OFF OF 506T CABLE
howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 4:23 AM / IP Logged  
As you have it wired right now it won't start!
H3/2 RED / white and H3/6 Red should both go to a constant either the black or WHITE/ red at the ignition switch.
H2/12 Reverse if auto; if manual parking brake switch (at base of parking brake or switched side of warning light on gauge cluster, goes to ground when brake is pulled up).
H2/7 Will need a relay See dia. 1.
H2/12, not used.
H2/21 Will need a relay. See dia. 2.
You are going to give yourself a world of grief with all those sensors interfering with each other, frankly in the real world all you need is a 508d. Cut both loops on the 507M.
dia._1.bmp
dia._2.bmp
veiloctane 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 1:34 PM / IP Logged  
question about dia.2 for the turbo timer setup
I do not see a connection for #87
is 87 +12V constant as well?
#85 - H2/21 DIODE on ALARM SIDE
#30 - IGNITION 1
#86 - CONSTANT +12V
#87 -
howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 1:38 PM / IP Logged  
Bad drawing it's definitely connected.
In both diagrams 87a isn't connected.
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 4:26 PM / IP Logged  
so i am planning to try and plug in the 508D red and black to
red 12v constant power
black to h1/6 -ground when armed output
Blue - Sensor port 2
Green - Sensor port 2
do I need a relay because I have a backup battery 520T and a 620V also attached?
H1/6  ORANGE      (-) 500mA GROUND WHEN ARMED OUTPUT      (-) BLUE OUTPUT TO CONTROL MODULE DEI BACKUP BATTERY 520T; (-) BLACK 620V VIPER INDICATOR LIGHT;508d Black
howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 4:35 PM / IP Logged  
No, that lot is drawing about 2 amps.
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 4:37 PM / IP Logged  
Howie, I just wanted to check on one thing regarding your 2nd diagram. The WHITE/ blue is just an activation input on the unit if I'm not mistaking; therefore it would just be connected through a momentary button to a ground source. Then to activate the turbo timer you would simply press the momentary button to activate. Another option would be to just use the remote to activate the turbo timer mode and the WHITE/ blue connection would not be required. The turbo timer run time is set in the programming menu.
This is all assuming this is a DEI unit.. which it appears to be by the wire coloring...
Kenny
Owner / Technician
KKD Garage LLC
Albany, NY 12205
howie ll 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 4:39 PM / IP Logged  
Quite right Kenny, my only excuse is we have never had any 59XX series here.
veiloctane 
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Posted: February 13, 2012 at 5:00 PM / IP Logged  
ok great so no needed to hookup to the blue/white wire for turbo timer.
does this mean that I can program the 5904 to always turbo time when the ignition is off??
I have a bitwriter 2.7 so I have access to the additional settings.
I am also putting in a push-to-start from advanced keys and both the viper 5904 and advanced keys module use the tachometer and (+)break sense and (-) ebrake/neutral do I need to isolate these wires with a diode?
Manual to the standalone push-start-button is here
http://advancedkeys.com/docs/AK-PSB05.pdf
I also want to enable the push-to-start module when the viper is disarmed.
so i am thinking of using one of the aux ports on the viper default timed 30second to the "push-to-start enable" (purple wire (-) input) on the ak-psb05.
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