2009 chrysler sebring 4 dr

I ended up buying the directed electronics 451m door relay, originally i was planing on adding just key-less entry, but after going to amazon.com i got a good deal for key-less and remote start, almost a third of what i seen at best buy for same alarm, so i don't plan on adding the remote start module anytime soon. would that be the problem? i could only use the key-less entry from this module? or i would have to have the remote start connected as well?

kreg357 wrote: My favorite for that vehicle would be the ADS iDatlink ADS ALSL CH with all hardwired W2W connections ( same as the Jeep Patriot install previously mentioned ). Street price about $50.

ok will I need more than one key to program this and will I need a spare key to leave inside? when i purchased the car it only came with one key, and it wasnt the original keyless fob($210for a new key plus the programming, hence why i wanted to go the route of installing an aftermarket keyless) If I'll be able to program and get it working with just one key, then ill be ordering it this friday again, thank you very much for your help.

I'm confused.  Originally you were installing an Avital 4103 and using relays for the locks.  Which Remote Start / Keyless Entry

system did you actually buy / install?

The 451M kit comes with a 330 ohm resistor.  Radio Shack will have the 100 ohm resistor.  Follow the Type H wiring diagram on

Page 6 of the instructions.  You can test this with just the 451M connected to the car and applying +12V to the Red wire in the 3 Pin plug and a momentary ground to either the Green or Blue wire for lock or unlock.  If that works properly all the time, then the issue you mentioned is with the R/S keyless entry system.

If you do go with a full featured bypass module, like the CH-ALL or ADS ALSL CH, the DEI 451M won't be necessary.  The bypass

module will do all of that for you thru the CAN Bus connections.  Only one key is needed to just program the bypass and it won't remain in the car. 

Soldering is fun!

Avital 4103 remote start and keyless. i was looking for A keyless system but came across this system with remote start for half the price a keyless only system would've cost at the store at amazon new. So what I did was only connect the keyless wires and tapped off the remote start wires until I buy the bypass module. I purchased the 451m relay and installed it. It works good most of the time, but theres times when I press the lock button I just hear both the avital and 451m click but doors won't lock unless I press unlock first then lock . I was wondering if this was a feature of the car, which I doubt since 9 out of 10 times it locks without a problem. Hope this clears it up

Ok, if the k/s sysyem is faulty, do they offer warranty?

Avital is not one of my normal brands.  The selling dealer would be the best place for any warranty issues.  I would

do some testing before assuming it's a bad unit.

Using this 4103 Install guide ( https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=738 ), it looks like you only need to

connect H1/8 to a solid chassis ground, H1/9 ( factory default is + ) to the Sebrings WHITE/ Violet Parking Light wire in the DKP ( optional ), and the two heavy gauge Red wires to a +12V constant source from the 6 Pin connector forkeyless entry functions.  Also connect the Antenna and 451M to their respective ports.  The factory default programming of single 0.8 second pulses should be OK.

If you have a spare 330 ohm resistor, you could test the system locking by making a jumper wire with the resistor in

the middle.  One end to the cars Lock/Unlock wire and momentarily touch the other end to chassis ground right afterengine turn off.  Could be a poor connection in your wiring that is causing the problem.  Everything should be solderedand the chassis ground wire should have a soldered on terminal ring and be securely fastened to bare metal.

Soldering is fun!

Ok I will go back today and solder all the wires and make sure the ground is solid, thanks for the info. will be buying the ADS ALSL CH module this friday :)

Ok so i should be receiving the ADS-ALSL-CH this monday, I have a question about this product, will I have to stick my current key(only one in my possesion) in the iDatalink module for it to program??? I read the manual online and dont seem to point to anything about key programming. Or will it program with the key inside the key ignition???

Using the ADS ALSL CH5 install guide #8528, follow the Type 3 wiring diagram.  There is no need

for the DEI 451M and its' connections to the door lock wire, the iDatalink bypass module handlesthat thru CAN Bus data.  Make all of the connections shown with solid Red and dashed Black linesbetween the 4103 and iDatalink.  ( The 4103 does not need the EBrake, Door Status & Trunk Status.)

The CH5 install guide does not show the connections between the 4103 and the car.  Besides the

+12V constant wires, connect Chassis Ground, Parking Lights, Horn ( optional ), Neutral Safety andthe Hood Pin.

The iDatalink programming can be found on Page 18 of the install guide.  It's a two step process.

First step is to select and lock-in the Install Mode.  W2W is Standard Mode, two blinks.

The next step is the actual programming to the vehicle.  Follow the Type 3 programming, 9 steps.

While you will need the key for programming, no key will be placed in the bypass module or leftin the vehicle.

My normal programming routine is to start with Factory Reset ( shown on Page 19 ).  After Step 5,

the LED will be blinking a "one blink" pattern ( Data Mode).  Press the button once and verify theLED is now blinking a "two blink" pattern ( Standard Mode ).  Press & hold the button.  The LED should go solid Green for two seconds.  Release the button and continue the Factory Reset procedure at Step 6.  Next, go  right into the 9 step vehicle programming procedure.

Soldering is fun!

Just to make sure, did I purchase the right one??? http://www./itm/400184640704?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1439.l2649