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If no one knows if I have the right wires that's ok. But I would need help on testing for the right wires.
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H2/18- violet / YELLOW starter output goes to starter output on 10 pin harness?
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Absolutely not. 

H2/18 (-) 200mA Starter Output is a low current negative output typically used to control a relay if the vehicle needs more than one high current (+) output.

H3/4 Violet (+) Starter Output is a high current +12V output used to connect directly to the vehicles ignition harness ( if it is required ).

H3/5 Green is used in conjunction with H3/4 if the Vipers optional Starter Kill circuit is desired.

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     G.P. wiring info from Ready Remote

          Viper           2002 G.P. @ Ignition Switch Harness
H3/1   PINK (+) IGNITION 1 INPUT/OUTPUT           Pink    
H3/2   RED / WHITE (30A) FUSED IGNITION 2         Red
H3/3   ORANGE ACCESSORY OUTPUT    Orange
H3/4   VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE)            Yellow - cut
H3/5   GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE)   Yellow - cut
H3/6   RED (+) FUSED (30A) IGNITION 1 INPUT   Red
H3/7   PINK/WHITE (+) IGNITION 2    White  ***Viper set for IGN2 ( default )
H3/8   PINK/BLACK FLEX RELAY INPUT 87A         N.U.
H3/9   RED / BLACK FUSED (30A) ACC/STARTER INPUT     Red
H3/10  N/C     N/C

If you want to power the G.P.'s Brown Accessory2 circuit, wire a 30/40 Amp SPDT relay as follows :

Relay Pin 86 and 87 to +12V constant fused at 20 Amps
Relay Pin 30 to G.P. Brown ACC2 wire @ ignition switch harness
Relay Pin 85 to Viper ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT wire
Relay Pin 87A not used - insulate

All vehicle wires should be verified before any connections are made.  All the above vehicle wires

are simple +12V circuits.  You can use a DMM or low current test light to locate, identify and verify
each wire.  Black lead to chassis ground and Red lead to suspect wire.  DMM will indicate +12V when
circuit is active. 

Here is a link to some videos for installation basics : http://www.readyremote.com/default.asp

Here is a link to an install guide with wire identification info :
https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1010     Starting at Step 2 on page 14

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I'm trying to do the 24-pin H2 connector but as you've said H2 wires are low current. So they don't connect to the h3 harness in any way but I'm trying to figure out where the H2 wires go on the steering column. There's some small wires but I can't tell what any of them are cause there's no sheet telling me which is which.
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Just noticed that all the above H3 wiring info was previously posted on Page 3...   02 Pontiac Grand Prix, Viper 5704 - Page 12 -- posted image.
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alexp1289 
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I've got all the H2 wires hooked up except for the remote start H2 wires.
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There are several different H2 harness configurations.  It might help if you actually listed your H2 harness wires and each connection you have made with any questions concerning the "unused" wires.  ( There will be "unused" wires. )
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Alright so these are the connections I've already made with the harness. So far I've already done:
These wires have already been attached and tested :-)
H2/4 "GREEN/ black"-(-)200mA oem alarm disarm output
H2/6 "green"-(-) door trigger input
H2/7 "BLACK / YELLOW"-(-)200mA dome light supervision output
H2/8 "BROWN / black"-(-)200mA horn honk output
H2/16 "brown"-(+) brake shutdown input
The wires I need help with are (none of these go to heavy gauge ignition wires? Correct?)-
H2/1 "pink/white"-(-)200mA ignition/ flex relay control output
H2/10 "pink"-(-)200mA ignition 1 output
H2/18 " violet / YELLOW "-(-)200mA starter output
H2/21 ""-(-)200mA remote start/ turbo timer activation
H2/22 "orange "-(-)200mA accessory output ......does this need a diode? And which way would the diode go?
H3/4 "violet"-(+) starter output (car side of starter kill).... I read somewhere that this wire is not required for the remote start but it seems like in order to remote start the car you would need a starter output and input so I'm guessing that information was wrong.
H3/5 "green"-(+) starter input (key side of starter kill).... I also read that this wire was not needed but I don't see how you would start a car without a starter input.
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Posted: October 05, 2012 at 8:51 PM / IP Logged  

Don't need for your install:

H2/1 "pink/white"-(-)200mA ignition/ flex relay control output
H2/10 "pink"-(-)200mA ignition 1 output
H2/18 " violet / YELLOW "-(-)200mA starter output
H2/21 ""-(-)200mA remote start/ turbo timer activation

Needed for install if using external relay to power the G.P.'s Brown ACC2 wire.  Diagram already listed.

Diode not needed but could be added as a quenching diode across the relays coil ( Pins 85 & 86 ) as
Howie II has probably mentioned.
H2/22 "orange "-(-)200mA accessory output 

Your G.P. will need the Vipers Starter output connected to remote start the car.  If you don't want the

Starter Kill feature, only connect the H3/4 Violet wire to the G.P.'s un-cut Yellow Starter wire.
H3/4 "violet"-(+) starter output (car side of starter kill)  - must be used

If you want the Vipers Starter Kill feature, cut the G.P.'s Yellow starter wire and connect both the

Vipers Violet and Green wires to the correct ends of the G.P.'s cut Yellow Starter wire
H3/5 "green"-(+) starter input (key side of starter kill) - optional - wire accordingly

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