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blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 10, 2013 at 10:29 AM / IP Logged  

I bought the PKALL module from Amazon.com and had my wifes sister in the US bring it on a visit to canada. It's the only module I have and would hate to buy another PKALL and not work.

If someone can confirm that this module works for 2011 and up sienna without smart key it would help.

blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:06 AM / IP Logged  

Well tried again this morning.

Spoke to xpresskit again. They said the program yellow/white wire that goes to the cut purple IMI wire can program the module. I can connect the cut IMI wires back together and tap the yellow/white program wire to see if the unit programs.

Tried and car starts but then dies after 3 seconds again.

I think I narrowed the problem though. I was always looking at the cut imi wire for the problem. I disconnected the other IMO wire and PURPLE / white connection to the module and the car starts fine but the module doesn't program.

Doesn't work if I attach the PURPLE / white wire from the module that senses the non-cut IMO green wire. I tried connecting this wire to purple IMI wire as well and does the same thing car will shut off. Weird somehow the problem seems to be the Green wire or PURPLE / white wire to the module.

I put a call to tech support but not sure if they work Saturday.

Frustrated and becoming an expert in dissassembling my dash.

blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 12, 2013 at 10:26 PM / IP Logged  
Read another post that indicated all you need to program is three wires. Imi, IMO, and keysense for a fortin bypass. Tried and didn't work. Tried programming without IMO connected and wouldn't program.
I tried calling some of local audio stores as directed now refused to help me because I'm not a registered dealer. Shops all want $100 plus tax for a programmed idatalink module.
I ended up taping my key beside the ignition. Ha
I think I'm going to order the older key loop style off eBay. Wish I saved my old key loops but I thought at the time that technology would die. Previous dealer who sold me idatalink gave me one that could only program on a Honda sucks too.
Anybody know if the older keyloops work with the 80 bit Toyota keys?
blazing_nitro 
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Posted: January 18, 2013 at 2:30 PM / IP Logged  

OK finally got off the phone with directed electronics.

The (purple) wire connected to the IMO wire should not output anything if the unit isn't programmed. This wire connected to the unit is preventing the car from starting.

They think something happened to unit when I followed the instructions and connected the positive 12 volts to the blue wire.

I will return. Not sure if I will buy another one though.

kreg357 
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Posted: January 19, 2013 at 6:45 AM / IP Logged  

Note sure what type of R/S system you are installing into the Seinna ( R/S only, R/S w/Keyless or a

complete R/S w/Alarm & Keyless ) and if you have already successfully made all the other connections,
but if you are looking for a easy, reliable bypass module, take a look at the iDatalink offerings.  The
ADS TB flashed with the ADS TB TL5 firmware would replace the PKALL and if you wanted a full
featured module, the ADS AL-CA loaded with the ADS AL(DL) TL5 firmware would take care of the
bypass and a whole lot more.  Well worth the money, but either one would need to be flashed for
you by the seller prior to shipment.

Here is a link to iDatalink to get more info : http://www.idatalink.com/support

Soldering is fun!
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