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2004 WJ Jeep Grand Cherokee, Viper 5704


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reopfd4mwtnmq77 
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 5:55 PM / IP Logged  
Thanks you harryharris and godd dan it.
The BLACK/ white neutral safety is grounded and the brown brake shutdown input is tapped into the brake pedal switch.
I am hopefully in the home stretch now.
When attempting a remote start the following occurs:
1. Remote says it's successfully going to attempt the ignition (no immediate errors like before)
2. After 10 seconds of silence the parking lights flash once.
3. After 10 more seconds of silence the parking lights flash once more.
4. After 15 seconds of silence the remote beeps/buzzes and REMOTE START ERROR appears on the screen.
The remote start's startup diagnostics in the manual only document reasons for 5-8 flashes from the remote start; for 1 flash there is no information.
What should I check next?
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 6:01 PM / IP Logged  
Have you learned tach?
Test before boxing up.
reopfd4mwtnmq77 
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No, that's what I'm trying to do. Since I am doing a D2D install i don't have the tach wire connected to anything. The instructions from the Viper 5704 docs say to remote start the vehicle to initialize the tach.
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howie (aka: harryharris)
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Also disconnect the brown, you might have gone to the wrong side of the brake switch, LED aftermarket lights if fitted will also give this problem.
I haven't looked but the spec should tell you if the DB-ALL gives the R/S a brake light feed
Test before boxing up.
reopfd4mwtnmq77 
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 6:07 PM / IP Logged  
I get the same result with or without the brown brake shutdown input wire connected.
howie (aka: harryharris)
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The DB-ALL should give you proper tach go back to the programming, Menu 3 item 2 option 4.
Much better than virtual tach especially in the winter.
Test before boxing up.
reopfd4mwtnmq77 
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 6:29 PM / IP Logged  
I have done the following:
With no wiring changes
1. Changed Engine Checking Mode menu 3, item 2 to option 4 Tachometer
2. Ensured Transmission mode menu 3, item 1 is set to option 2 Automatic
3. Attempted the remote start
With brown brake shutdown input disconnected
1. Double-checked both settings above
2. Attempted the remote start
I get identical behavior - confirmation from the remote, 10 second silence, 1 parking light flash, 10 second silence, 1 parking light flash, 15 second silence, REMOTE START ERROR on the remote.
I think I may hear a relay or something clicking prior to each flash of the parking lights coming from near or in the remote starter.
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 6:32 PM / IP Logged  
Try and count the clicks.
Run engine within 5 seconds hold the control centre button until the blue LED comes on. Then you've learned tach.
Then try a remote start.
Test before boxing up.
reopfd4mwtnmq77 
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 6:42 PM / IP Logged  
Regarding the clicks from the remote start, here is more detail on what happens
1. I attempt the remote start and get confirmation it's gone through
2. The parking lights flash almost immediately
3. I hear 3 clicks 1-2 seconds apart, coming from the remote starter. On the 3rd click I also hear a click from under the steering column by the immobilizer/ignition
4. I then get the flash of parking lights at 10seconds in
5. The same 3 clicks can be heard from the remote start. There is no click from the immobilizer/ignition this time.
6. The flash from the parking lights at 20seconds in
7. The same 3 clicks a final time. Again, no click from the immobilizer/ignition
8. At 35 seconds in the remote displays the generic error message.
To confirm about learning the tach, I should
1. Put key in the ignition and start the jeep
2. within 5 seconds of it starting, push and hold the control center button on the antennae for the remote starter, waiting for the blue LED.
3. Release the control center button
4. Turn off the vehicle
5. Attempt a remote start
Correct?
howie (aka: harryharris)
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Posted: February 19, 2014 at 6:47 PM / IP Logged  
Yes 3 clicks/flashes = no or low RPM therefore learn tach.
Test before boxing up.
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