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Viper 5906v on a 2000 Cadillac Deville


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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 5:49 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote davep.
On about page 3 he indicates he used the 24-pin (-200ma) orange accy wire to control a relay for the car's Brown accy wire. The way it's written, it looks like he hooked the 24-pin orange directly to the Brown wire. If he did, that's why there's no ACCY output. The 24-pin orange AND the large gauge orange ACCY output's internal relay control are common. If he applied 12V to the little orange, and fried the junction, the big orange won't work either.
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 6:15 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 6:22 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mscguy
Yeah that's right, but I read it the other way. I read it as he connected it to the relay as written below in that post.
If he did connect it wrong, that would do it.
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 10:53 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote ttimms20
How should it be connected to the relay, I never tried to go directly from the little orange 24 pin to the brown wire. It always went thru the relay but it may be wired wrong.
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 10:56 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote ttimms20
Accessory output orange - brown ign harness on relay..
87&86-12v constant (was a 30 amp fuse and changed to 20) resistor jump also
85-orange accessory wire off 24 pin harness
30-brown ign harness wire
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 11:04 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mscguy
Yeah that looks fine.
The diode on that relay, the silver stripe on it is toward pin 86 right?
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 11:09 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote ttimms20
It appears to be on the 85 side, it came pre wired
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 11:12 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote ttimms20
Red wire
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 11:24 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mscguy
Well, they typically come pre wired as 86 being the positive pile of the coil and the band of the diode facing that.
If it is indeed wired with the band facing 85, your relay coil is being shorted across and you've fed +12v straight into your -200ma 24 pin acc wire. That would definitely hurt it.
The damage has been done, but do you have another one of those relays to compare them and see if both the diodes are wrong?
Perhaps the wiring directions are listed on the package?
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Posted: January 19, 2016 at 11:36 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote ttimms20
Just read the diode section again, wrote and think I understand what happened now, cause be for I put Fuses in the 2nd acc it did work... From what I read if the cathode(stripe side) is more positive than the anode(blank side), no current will flow. So because 85 was linked to a negative on the cathode it took the on coming power.
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