06 Odyssey Viper 5204 -PKALL Remote Start

Dear Techies, I'm planning to install Viper 5204 with xpress kit PKALL module. Planning to hook this up in D2D mode. As per the Pkall wiring diagram, I see only 4 wires need to be connected to the Car. 1. Xpresss Kit PKAL (Connector 2) --PURPLE / White ----Carries Data to Red wire from the ignition barrel. 2. PKALL(Connector 2) - Pink ---Ignition to BLACK / YELLOW to Ignition barrel. 3. From PKALL(connector 3) two wires (Lightgreen,ORANGE / Brown) -- connect to the security Light wire(Blue/Orange) from Ignition Barrel. From PKALL to Viper, 1. the D2D connector between Viper 5204 and PKALL. 2. PKALL Blue/White(Connetctor 2) to Viper ( stat- output). So now my question is : 1) As Im using D2D, do I still need connections from Viper 5204 remote starter to Car?    2) If yes, What all wires that would need to connect from Remote starter to Car directly? Also, there are multiple harnesses shown in the 5204 installation manual and I believe that most of them may not be required. I already have a factory alarm system in my car and I just need to incorporate the remote starter functionality to work with my OEM alarm. I do not want any of the functionalities to be disturbed because of this integration. 3) Is this possible? Do I need a different bypass module instead of PKALL? 4) As Im wiring as D2D, will the integration be possible with the OEM alarm?

2006 Honda Odyssey Viper 5204 Security Remote start Xpresskit PKALL

Hi , I have also attached the Viper 5204 Harness details for your reference. Thanks in advance.

The PK-ALL install guide only shows the wires necessary for the transponder bypass part of the install, which it handles.  You will still need to connect many wires from the 5204 to the minivan.  Here is a link to Bulldog Security for vehicle specific info :  http://www.bulldogsecurity.com/bdnew/vehiclewiringdiagrams.aspxSoldering is fun!

Thank you kreg357. Your response clarified my primary doubt. Now I need to figure out what all wires are required to be connected from Viper to Car. In the bulldogsecurity website wiring diagram, it is mentioned that DBALL support remote start and doorlock whereas PKALL is only for remote start. So i assume that if I use PKALL, my OEM door look/unlock will not be functional anymore. Can any one suggest a buypass module (PKALL,DBALL,idatalink, Flashlogic etc.) that is compatible with Viper5204 and Honday Ody 2006?

Not really.  With the PK-ALL handling the transponder bypass, everything else could be hardwired.  The Viper should

not disable the Factory Alarm but the door locks will not work while the engine is running.  This is normal for Honda'swith or without any aftermarket add-ons

I'm not a DEI user, but if you are looking for DBI D2D easy, you could try to get a DB-ALL2 flashed with the HONDA4

firmware.  The latest version is v3.06.  This will give you power locks & sliding door control and interface with the Factory Alarm system.  The only issue with D2D is that all the door, trunk and hood status signals will be transferred to the Viper and it's alarm system will be active also.  Going W2W will allow you to select what signals are seen by the Viper ( hood only for the R/S safety ), etc.

Soldering is fun!

Thank you Kreg. I just got a DBALL2 flashed from a local installer. I have the following wires to be hooked up to the car. (+) 12v Parking lights (+) Start (+) Accessory 1 (+) Accessory 2 From the above 5204 Harness details, Is the below mapping correct? 1) R/S H3/1 - Pink - to Ignition Harness (Brown connector/ Which Pin?) 2) Which is the Viper Harness/Wire for Accessory 1 and 2 ? Is it H3/3 and H3/7 ? If yes, where can it be connected to in the Ignition connector? 3) Starter -- Is it the H2/18 or H3/4 or H3/5 . The right wire to be connected to Ignitions switch Pin1. BLACK/ White wire. correct? 4) Parkinglights - Is it H1/4 or H1/5 of Main viper Harness? where can that be connected to in the car?

Regarding Starter wire, this is what the manual says. H3/4 VIOLET (+) STARTER OUTPUT (CAR SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) H3/5 GREEN (+) STARTER INPUT (KEY SIDE OF THE STARTER KILL) Does it mean that I would need to use both the wires? If yes, Should I cut the BLACK/ White wire from Ignition Harness(Brown connector) and connect h3/4 and H3/5 to both the ends? What confusing me is, the above connection diagram shows just one direct connection (+Start) from Remote start to the vehicle.

Just to add one more clarification regarding the Accessory 1 and 2. For accessory, In addition to H3/3, I also see another thin orange wire in the H2 harness pin 22. H2/22 ORANGE (-) 200mA ACCESSORY OUTPUT. So, Can I use, the Orange wire (H3/3) from H3 as Accessory 1 and   the thin orange H2/22 (H2/2) as Accessory 2 that connects to Ignition Switch connector BLACK/ red(pin 4) and WHITE/ Red(Pin 5) respectively?

H3/2, H3/6, H3/9       +12V constant              white +  ignition harness          H3/4    car side          Starter BLACK/ white     +  ignition harness    cut this wireH3/5    switch side     Starter BLACK/ white     +  ignition harness    cut this wireH3/1 Ignition   BLACK / YELLOW   +  ignition harness    H3/3 Accessory        BLACK/ red        +  ignition harness    H3/7   program Viper            2nd Accessory              WHITE/ red        +  ignition harness      Menu 3, Feature 8, Opt 2Soldering is fun!