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99 Altima, Avital 4103, no Start condition


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twin051302 
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Posted: September 09, 2017 at 11:11 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote twin051302
Installed a few of these Avital units and this one is giving me a run for my $. Car will crank but wont start. Starts immediately with key...
Hers what is wired and where:
Main 9 pin:
Black - ground
White - Red/Bluw @ steering column
Door Lock 3 pin:
Blue - Purple @ smart control
Green - Gray @ smart control
Remote start 6 pin:
Red 1 - white and red @ Ign
Pink/white - not attached
Red 2 - White and red @ ign
Orange - not attached at this time as need to run acc relay. Just havent got to that point of install.
Purple - Bk/Yellow @ Ign
Pink - Bk/Red @ ign
Satellite harness - Not used
Remote Start harness:
Bk/white - grounded
Violet/white - wh/bk @ 6 pin Distributor
Brown - not attached
gray - hood pin switch
mgoetz74 
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Posted: September 09, 2017 at 1:21 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mgoetz74
did you hook up the second starter? purple on the relay harness to a relay to the black/blue at the ignition harness
twin051302 
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Posted: September 09, 2017 at 4:05 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote twin051302
On my wiring diagram from avital, they list the purple as main output to starter circuit which in my case splices into yellow black at ignition.
The output to 2nd Ignition/Accesory is pink/white which I dont have connected to anything currently.
twin051302 
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Posted: September 09, 2017 at 4:36 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote twin051302
Mgoets74 thanks for sending me in the rite direction. I powered up the pink and white to blue and black at ign and she starts. Tomorrow I will try an figure out why the accessory wire needs a relay and how to wire that up. Probably overthinking it but currently doesnt make much sense.
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Posted: September 10, 2017 at 3:24 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote howie ll
Second starter wire?
Black/blue at ignition loom.
twin051302 
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Posted: September 10, 2017 at 3:47 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote twin051302
howie ll wrote:
Second starter wire?
Black/blue at ignition loom.
Yes, that is what it was. I also added the needed relay this am for the accessory lead. Job is complete thanks to folks like yourself and Mgoetz.
Much appreciated!!
twin051302 
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Posted: September 10, 2017 at 3:59 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote twin051302
For anyone doing a 99 Altima in the future with an Avital system, here is what the final wiring looked like:
Main harness, 9 pin connector:
1. light green black - not used
2. Green/white - not used
3. yellow ignition output - Pin 86 on needed relay
4. white/blue - not used
5. orange - not used
6. brown - not used
7. red/white - not used
8. black - ground
9. white - red/blue @ steering column
Door lock, 3 pin connector
1. blue - purple @ smart control
2. empty
3. green - gray @ smart control
Remote start, 6 pin connector
1. red - white/red @ Ign
2. pink/white - bk/blue @ Ign
3. red - white/red @ Ign
4. orange - dash side of needed relay tied in with relay pin 30 as well as dash side of bk/pink wire @ ign harness.
5. purple - bk yellow @ ign
6. pink - bk/red @ ign
Satellite harness, 4 pin
1. blue - not used
2. orange - not used
3. purple - not used
4. pink - not used
Remote start harness, 5 pin
1. bk/white - neutral safety switch or ground (not recommended for safety reasons)
2. violet/white - wh/bk @ 6 pin connector on distributor
3. brown - red/gn @ brake pedal switch
4. Gray - hood pin switch
5. blue/white - not used
Main 9 pin:
Black - ground
White - Red/Bluw @ steering column
Door Lock 3 pin:
Blue - Purple @ smart control
Green - Gray @ smart control
Remote start 6 pin:
Red 1 - white and red @ Ign
Pink/white - not attached
Red 2 - White and red @ ign
Orange - not attached at this time as need to run acc relay. Just havent got to that point of install.
Purple - Bk/Yellow @ Ign
Pink - Bk/Red @ ign
Satellite harness - Not used
Remote Start harness:
Bk/white - grounded
Violet/white - wh/bk @ 6 pin Distributor
Brown - not attached
gray - hood pin switch
twin051302 
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Posted: September 10, 2017 at 4:05 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote twin051302
Needed Accessory Relay wiring:
Pin 86 - Yellow wire #3 of main harness
Pin 87 - Fused 12V Constant
Pin 87A - bk/pink @ Ign
Pin 85 - Fused 12V COnstant
Pin 30 - bk pink @ ign (dash Side)
Bk/pink @ Ign must be cut in half. 87A goes to Ign/Key side. 30 goes to Bk Pink on dash side.
Orange #4 wire from 6 pin remote start connector will tie into bk/pink wire along with pin 30.

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