Viper 5806V Alarm/Remote Start

Do you have the Viper connected to a car? What Brand / Make / Model / Year vehicle. An install on a Manual Transmission vehicle is more involved. There are several things that must be done. !. You must run the Viper with Engine Checking = Tach and do a successful Tach Learn. 2. You must connect the Door, Hood and Trunk trigger wires. 3. You must bypass the clutch interlock circuit. 4. You must successfully enter Reservation Mode. It is not safe to run the Viper R/S in Auto Trans Mode. If the vehicle is left in gear and remote started it will start moving... Reservation Mode prevents this but requires Door Pin connections to work. If your vehicle has door pins that show Chassis Ground when closed and open when the door is open you have NC door triggers. The easy way to handle this is via an Omega AU-NCT module. The other way is using Directed TechTip 1097. Here is that link : https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/file.asp?ID=1139 You can find the Omega AU-NCT module on EBay for $35.Soldering is fun!

Door pins show open when doors closed - so these are NO correct? Just to clarify

Yes, Normally Open. This type will show a chassis ground when the door is open. You can use all four door trigger wires with 1N4001 diode isolation as the Viper (-) Door Trigger Input. No need for the AU-NCT module.Soldering is fun!

how does one You must bypass the clutch interlock circuit....? no sure how this hooks up ech Tip #10000

apologies found it in the downloads - appreciated

Ok the clutch bypass seems straight forward - what I don't understand is its purpose, what is the need to send a (-). Is this similar to the brake cut off in some way? the (-) connects to what on the 5806v exactly - I don't see reference to clutch (-) input? NOTE: My vehicle has not switch or connection to the clutch (only the brake) its hardly drive by wire vehicle for sure

The purpose is to be able to simulate a press of the clutch so you can remote start. If you are not using the negative starter output, you can use it.My ex once told me I have a perfect face for radio.

OK things are moving along - removed all my connections and double checked - found issue with WTS (diesel) and foot brake (+), for the short term i have put wait to start as timed and set to 3 seconds (90-110F average temp here and starts fine without so all ok) the foot brake was not sending (+) so fixed this issue..... completed Techo learning procedure (key start within 5 seconds press RF control - solid LED indicator, shutdown car...) Completed MTS procedure ...... all worked as expected.....MAGIC! Armed car ----- Engine shutdown as expected...... a little more magic remote start from fob -- starts then shuts down....Viper RS tries a few times same result, then an error is sent back to FOB I have been trying to use the Directechs XK3 PRG-100 function but I get lots of communication errors - I assume this is due to not having a direct tech account (et. limitation)? My assumption is there is an issue with Tachometer learning? - but I unsure of how to approach - set to virtual tach?, relearn and if so how do i determine if ist different?

Here are some extra info that may help shed some light I Run a Dakota Digital DSL1E which reads RPM ('W' wire) from the alternator and outputs (standard tach output = tachometer signal to drive a standard ignition system tachometer) Dakaota Digital DSL1E details D2D logs below: MTS Ready D2D log 2 of 5,820 D2D Log MTS competed [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - ----------------------------------------------------------------- [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - d2d_log.txt [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - Created at 12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - ----------------------------------------------------------------- [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 71 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function dome off from remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 41 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function lock on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function panic on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 24 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - gwr off [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unused [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - request vin digit 12 to 14 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 127 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function panic on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 27 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - send ignition off to remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function arm only [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:44:25:00044] - function car finder [12-27-2020 - 02:44:33:00044] - function unlock all on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:33:00044] - function panic on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function dome on from remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - unknown function 24 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - request millage (km) [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - unused [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - unknown function 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function car finder [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - request engine coolant temperature [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - unknown function 127 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function panic on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function stop from remote [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - send ignition off to remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function arm only [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:44:57:00044] - function alarm triggered from remote starter (mostly for smart start signaling) [12-27-2020 - 02:45:02:00045] - function unlock all on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:02:00045] - function panic on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:05:00045] - unknown function 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:05:00045] - function alarm triggered from remote starter (mostly for smart start signaling) [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unknown function 71 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function parking off from remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - return 2 bytes digit 1 to 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function panic on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function parking on from remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function panic off from remote 1 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unknown function 0 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unused [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - request vin digit 12 to 14 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unknown function 127 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function panic on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unknown function 27 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - send ignition off to remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function arm only [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:45:09:00045] - function car finder d2d_log.txt Displaying d2d_log.txt. Remote start D2D Log [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - ----------------------------------------------------------------- [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - d2d_log.txt [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - Created at 12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - ----------------------------------------------------------------- [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - function parking on from remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - function panic off from remote 1 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - unknown function 0 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - unused [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - request vin digit 12 to 14 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - request intake air temperature(outside temp) [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - unknown function 127 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - Status support synchronization for Smartstart 3.0.1 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - unknown function 140 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - function panic on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - request vin digit 12 to 14 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - unknown function 137 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:46:02:00046] - function lock on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - unknown function 202 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - function panic off from remote 1 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - unknown function 0 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - send ignition on to remote starter [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - request vin digit 12 to 14 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - unknown function 205 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - request battery voltage 0 to 15.94 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - unknown function 127 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - function panic on from remote 2 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - function panic on from remote 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - request engine coolant temperature [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - unknown function 3 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - reserved for encryption [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - unknown function 137 [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - function ground when running on [12-27-2020 - 02:46:26:00046] - function lock on from remote 2 d2d_log.txt Displaying d2d_log.txt.

My understanding with DEI R/S units, is that in Manual Transmission Mode they must run in Tach Mode. The Vipers Tach Input wire must be connected to an acceptable Tach signal source and successful Tach Learn must be completed. Finding a Tach source on a Diesel can be a challenge. Two things to try. 1. The Viper has something called Shutdown Diagnostics. It will tell you the reason for the 3 R/S attempts and why it gave up. 2. Directed makes a module called a Tach Generator. It's a 454T. You can use that module to supply the Vipers needed Tach Input signal.Soldering is fun!