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2012 Hyundai Accent, Prestige APS-687TWE


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mickb24 
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Posted: January 12, 2021 at 9:22 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mickb24
Hi guys, hope someone can give me some guidance on installing this remote starter on a 2012 Hyundai Accent - Standard key no transponder / immobilizer, this is going into my daughters car.
The car currently has an Anti Grind built in, confirmed by starting car and going past crank with igmition key when car is running, so question is, if started by remote starter will this feature still be on? if not i understand I will need to add a relay, after reading throug the forums here on 12volt I understand that I will need to add it in the following way:
86 to ignition 12v+
85 from Remote Start GWA
87a from ignition switch (Cut Starter wire)
30 to starter side of cut starter wire.
Diode 1N4004 with band towards 86 (ignition 12v+)
This leads me into my next question, I dont see a GWA wire on the APS-687TWE, the best wire I can see is from the 20 pin harness Lt. Blue- (Ground Out While Running) From manual - This wire provides a 300mA ground output that becomes active 1.5 seconds before the Remote Start Unit initializes and remains grounded while running plus an additional 2 seconds after the Remote Start Unit turns off. In all of the applications described below, a relay will be required. Would this be the correct wire?
My second question is regarding the 4 Pin Main Harness. (This is confusing the crap out of me)
I know again after reading the Forum posts that the Parking Lights are (-) Negative.
1. Black Chassis Ground (Got that)
2. White with Red Trace - This wire is the common contact of the on board parking light flasher relay. If the vehicle you are working on has +12 volt switched parking lights, connect this wire to a fused + 12 volt source. (Max. 15 Amps)
NOTE: If the vehicle's parking lights are ground switched, connect this wire to chassis ground.
As stated previously the Parking Light wire on the Hyundai Accent is (-) So I should connect this wire to Ground?
3. Yellow with Black Trace - (+) to Alarm Ignition Input (Dont think I need to use this wire).
4. White wire - Parking Light Relay Output. This wire would connect to the the Pink/Black Parking light wire.
This wire is the normally open contact of the on board parking light flash relay. Connect this wire to the vehicle's parking light feed wire. This is the wire that gets switched on, either (+) or (-), when the vehicle's parking light switch is activated.
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Posted: January 12, 2021 at 9:49 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
The cars Anti-Grind will still function during R/S. The starter won't grind if you go past ON during key-takeover.
The Prestige R/S unit has an internal Parking Light relay. The White/Red wire is the input to this relay. It gives the installer the flexibility to select the (-) or (+) signal instead of using a jumper. You are correct, for your Elantra, connect the White/Red to the Black and run the Black to a good Chassis Ground.
GWA is very different from GWR. GWR is typically used to control a bypass module. GWA is typically used for window roll up, etc. What do you need GWA for?
BTW, if you haven't seen it, there is a Pictorial on that vehicle :    https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=139756
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Posted: January 12, 2021 at 12:30 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mickb24
kreg357. Thank you for the super quick response, so no relay for AntiGrind required, thats good news.
The GWA wire I was wanting to use for the AntiGrind relay, as per howie ll posted as per https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=126899 forum post, but seeing as I dont need it I should be OK.
The pictorial guide you posted is for an Hyundai Elantra, my daughters car is an Hyundai Accent, although there is another pictorial guide for this car at https://www.the12volt.com/installbay/forum_posts.asp?tid=132310 which I have read thouroughly and in this post near the bottom when talking about the Tach wire it states "This is a picture of a Tach source at the #4 Spark Plug Coil. Additionally, the Accent does not have "one-touch-starting" and is a candidate for Starter Kill and/or Anti-Grind. Just read who the author was and I see that you wrote this guide a long time ago - October 04, 2012.
Once again Kreg357 Thank you for the reply, I really do appreciate your help.
howie ll - Posted
Why people are getting flat batteries.
I've seen this posted twice recently and people don't appear to be following the alarm manufacturer's instructions.
An external anti-grind/starter relay should be wired as follows:-
85 Only use the "ground when armed (GWA)" from the alarm.
86 Ignition 1 only.
87a Key side of starter
30 Starter side of cut wire and starter output from R/S.
Diode 1N4004 across 85 and 86 with the band towards 86.
If you join a constant 12V+ to 86 that relay will be on all the time and you will have a flat battery within a day.
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Posted: January 12, 2021 at 1:26 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
You're right, got the Elantra Pictorial mixed up with the Accent.
Test to verify you don't need Anti-Grind. You could add it if necessary using the GWR output.
Adding StarterKill would be difficult with the Prestige system.
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mickb24 
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Posted: January 12, 2021 at 3:15 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mickb24
Thank you once again, if I do need AntiGrind, is that still the same wiring on the required relay? Stater wire cut, diode etc.
85 (GWR)" from the Remote Starter.
86 Ignition 1 only.
87a Key side of starter
30 Starter side of cut wire and starter output from R/S.
Diode 1N4004 across 85 and 86 with the band towards 86.
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Posted: January 12, 2021 at 4:19 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Yes, that will work for Anti-Grind if you need it.
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Posted: January 15, 2021 at 3:37 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote mickb24
Just wanted to say thank you for the help, I got it installed today with no issues, you were correct I did not need to add any relays for Anti-Grind.
Took my time and made it look good and double checked everything, took about 3 hours, and if I do say so myself I'm pretty proud of how professional the install looks.
I started with T Taps then tore those things out and soldered everything.

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