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2005 Jeep Wrangler X, Avital Remote Start Issue


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Posted: March†01, 2021 at 5:24 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
Hello all two questions I have a one button avital remote start installed and one out of every 10 tries it will actually start the rest of the time it flashes the parking lights 5 times indicating brake shutdown Iíve double checked the brake wire and itís showing 0 when pedal up 12 when the pedals depressed. Iíve even disconnected the brake wire all together from the avital with no luck.
What could possibly cause this? Next I have a int-sl+ I went through wired it did the learn procedure it went off with out a problem but itís not letting the truck start with out the key in the ignition. Can any one shed light on this?
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Posted: March†01, 2021 at 5:24 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
I do have the gray key on my jeep forgot to mention that.
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Posted: March†01, 2021 at 7:09 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
A couple of thoughts...
Double check your Avital Chassis Ground wire connection. It should be a soldered-on terminal ring to a clean paint and rust free solid frame metal. Depending on the Avital model 5 Blinks could mean Hood Pin. The hood pin should only see ground when the hood is open.
The INT-SL+ only does the bypass function for your jeep. Additionally, it cant go D2D so it must be connected W2W. The only wires that need to be connected are Red and Black on the 4 Pin connector and the Pink, Blue and Purple on the 14 Pin plug. I'm thinking that the Blue wire is not connected to the Blue (-) Status Output on the Avital.
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Posted: March†01, 2021 at 7:35 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
I do not have the hood pin wire connected at all and that clears up the issue with the bypass Iím trying to use it in d2d with the yellow / yellow black and pink wires the 4 pin with the power and ground connected to the avital. So I should cut the plug and wire power and ground direct avoiding the avital ?
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Posted: March†01, 2021 at 7:59 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Yes, follow the "Plan 2 Without Datalink" wiring diagram for that 4 Pin plug and make those 3 hardwired connections on the 14 Pin plug. I usually run the Red and Black to the R/S unit and tag off of it's wires.
Strange with the shutdown / 5 Blink issue. I've heard of bad Brake light bulbs causing issues but not when the Brake wire is disconnected. Check that R/S connector and its' pins.
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Posted: March†02, 2021 at 7:13 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
I will try that. I used plan 6 with out datalink as thatís what fortin said I should but I will try plan 2. Iím absolutely using the right wire brown from the 5pin is the brake shutdown. Before I got into the wiring some one has already been in there looks like a r/s was removed there is a purple wire maybe 18awg that was stripped back that I canít see a reason to be stripped it def had a wire tapped into it I can see the evidence but I canít see what would have went to it I pulled the whole hint back out and Iím going back through the wiring once again to see if I can find anything I missed but like I said when it does let the truck start it starts fine. Then the next ten tries it does 5 flashes abs when I use diagnostic mode that shows 4 blinks with it transmitter shutdown Iím baffled this is the second unit Iíve tried thinking the first was faulty but it does the exact same thing
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Posted: March†02, 2021 at 7:27 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Which model Avital? 4105?
Very strange that it happens with the Avital Brown wire disconnected. Even stranger that this is the second Avital unit with the same issue.
Are you using the White/Tan Brake wire at the brake pedal switch?
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Posted: March†02, 2021 at 7:53 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
The purple wire I mentioned above does not come from the skim I thought about using a new bypass that has the green plug for data but my jeep do not have the purple wire at the skim so I ruled that out. Iím going out to completely remove the bypass then attempt again to remote start the truck see if the issue goes away just the r/s with the key in the ign should let me confirm or continue diagnosing the r/s
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Posted: March†02, 2021 at 7:55 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
It is the 4105 single button and yes I am using the white/tan at the brake switch. Itís blowing my mind Iíve done plenty of installs now with out issue. I even checked for trailer wiring maybe feeding something back but there is none. I also tried pulling the fuse on the parking light wire thinking maybe confirmation flash is tripping the brake wire signal but that didnít matter either.
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Posted: March†02, 2021 at 2:35 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote fwoodjr123
So Iíve torn everything out rewired it. Same thing starts once then 5 flashes the next 10/20 tries. But before that the purple wire is actually purple/tan key sense wire Should that be connected to a wire from the int-sl+ ? Iíve double checked ground when a weak or no ground is present the unit clicks then the led on both avital and bypass go out then light back up then itís 5 flashes on the next attempt
Hereís what I have wired
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Both red from avital to red 12awg from jeep
Pink/white not used
Orange to pink/yellow 14awg (has 3 total I used the middle size wire) 16/12awg unused but Iíve tried them for fun no change
Purple to pink/orange
Pink to pink / lt green
5pin
Black/white to chassis ground
Brown to white/tan at brake switch
Violet / white not used
Gray not used
Blue/white not used
9 pin
Black to chassis ground
White to parking light white yellow in same harness as ignition which is how I know itís brake shutdown they flash 5 times so thatís fine
Nothing else is used
4 pin satellite
Blue to blue on bypass 14pin
Then cut the 4 pin from bypass only using black/red plugged into the avital leaving blue and white taped off.
Iím not even worried about the bypass at this moment no sense in worrying about that if I canít get the remote start to work alone with the key in the ignition
When I first plugged the new unit in it worked fine remote started first try then I didnít have the key in or bypass hooked up so it would attempt 3 times then shut off. That worked 2 times in a row then that was it right to flashing 5 times. Could I have damaged the avital some how? I was using the second pink/white ign/acc wire from the avital to the 12awg acc pink / yellow on the jeep just to rule out if I did need to have that wired in to resolve the issue. But again when it worked it worked fine but then wouldnít work the next time. Why is it so random when it wants to work? This is killing me. If checked the brake shutdown wire for voltage when pressing the remote start to activate and itís showing nothing until the pedal is depressed then I get 12.34v
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