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Viper 5706V With Omegalink Bypass Module, 2007 Nissan Titan


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lee.lopez 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 4:55 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lee.lopez
You're right. I forgot. This thread did start early September though.
Even if the starter output is no good, you might still be able to use the built in starter kill. Connect the green and purple wires and set the alarm and try starting with the key.
Ground while armed is called status by Viper. There'll be two of these wires, I think both blue (one with a stripe).
On the car side, use this for starter output from the remote start:
https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram8.html
desert islander 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 5:34 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote desert islander
The green and purple wire have been connected from initial install, but I wasn't getting any reading from the output during RS. I have attempted RS with these wires connected and with the key in ignition and the truck did start but I had to momentarily jump the starter wire. I believe that is why you mentioned to try and use the negative 200mA violet/yellow starter output wire at the 24-pin harness to take the place of the purple and green wire. you also mentioned that if this does work with the relay to the negative 200mA starter output that I will no longer need the purple and green wire anymore.
Do I use the negative starter output wire at 24-pin harness? Just so I understand correctly, I will connect from the relay pin 85 to the #21 violet/yellow negative 200mA starter output wire to starter car side at ignition. I will connect pin 87a from the relay to the starter wire key side at the ignition. Do I need to connect anything to pin 87 from the relay? I will also connect pins 86 and 30 to constant 12v, correct?
I see there is a dark blue wire at the 24-pin harness labeled negative 200mA Status output. Where do I connect this wire to?
I also see a blue/white negative 200mA 2nd Status/Rear Defogger output. Where do I connect this wire to?
There is also a Blue wire labeled negative trunk pin/instant trigger input (N/C or N/O). Assuming this wire is not needed?
I am also connecting a separate relay for ACC 2 which I have already tested to have 12v during RS.
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lee.lopez 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 6:12 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lee.lopez
If the green and purple provide starter kill you can leave them.
You'd still need the negative starter wire for remote start though. The negative starter wire will only go to 85 of an external relay- nothing else. 30 and 86 go to 12 volts constant and 87 to the car side of the cut starter wire (if cut).
The status wire is sometimes used to control a bypass if needed or to ground the key sense wire.
Looking at the diagrams, the simplest method for rear defrost would be to use your own external relay.
The trunk trigger is to sense if the trunk is opened. Since I doubt there's a factory tailgate sense feature, this will not be used.
desert islander 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 6:35 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote desert islander
The link you sent for starter kill shows 87a to ignition switch and 30 to starter motor. isn't this the same as 87a to key side of starter at ignition and 30 to car side of starter at ignition? Also shows 86 only to 12v. 85 to assuming negative 200mA starter output only.
https://www.the12volt.com/relays/relaydiagram8.html
If I can leave the purple and green as-is for starter kill, can I still connect 87a to the green (starter key side) at RS wire and 30 to the purple (starter car side) at RS wire? I thought that this is the purpose of the relay is for RS and starter kill and won't need to keep the green and purple wire from RS connected.
Assuming I don't need to connect any of the blue wires for defrost (I don't need) and trunk (I don't have).
Is the bypass for immobilizer and what does this connect to?
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lee.lopez 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 6:49 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lee.lopez
Again, if the built in starter kill works, there is no need to wire a starter kill relay.
It seems you still want to use an external relay for starter kill even though it's built in. Be my guest.
Yes, your Omegalink bypass is for the immobilizer and it connects to your Viper by following the instructions downloaded from Omegalink.
desert islander 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 8:17 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote desert islander
I don't understand how I would know if the starter kill works since I never got it to RS. So, If I am understanding correctly, there is no need for the starter kill relay I only thought that is what you meant when you mention to "try using the negative starter output wire (purple/yellow pin 21) to trigger a relay and connect the output to the vehicle starter wire". If this is the case, then all I need is to connect the relay like you said to above.
"The negative starter wire will only go to 85 of an external relay- nothing else. 30 and 86 go to 12 volts constant and 87 to the car side of the cut starter wire (if cut)". My starter wire is cut and currently connected green to key side and purple to car side of the starter wire. You mention to leave it wired this way if the starter kill works but I don't know if it does. Assuming starter kill does work, am I understanding that I can leave both the purple and green wires connected and just add the relay and connect pin 87 from the relay to the starter car side?
I apologize if my questions are not clear or don't make sense, I just need to make sure that I am not connecting wires wrong and frying my circuits.
The new Omegalink bypass I received as an exchange for the first one that didn't work to bypass my immobilizer is connected just need to test it once I have the starter and ACC 2 relays connected. If the bypass still doesn't work then I will try to hardwire it to the RS.
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lee.lopez 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 8:58 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lee.lopez
I would disable the horn and siren first since the alarm should be triggered from turning the key. If it starts with the key while disarmed, then arm and try starting with the key. I mentioned this above. That'll tell you if starter kill works. If it doesn't start then starter kill is working.
If starter kill works, yes, you can just add to the car side of the starter wire.
I understand you don't want to fry anything. However we've been through different ways you can test. I'm trying to show you how to fish and have apparently been failing.
I haven't used an Omegalink so you're just going to have to do what you can.
desert islander 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 10:05 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote desert islander
I can't find any instructions on how to disable the horn and siren in the owner's manual or the installation guide.
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lee.lopez 
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Posted: December 30, 2024 at 10:13 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote lee.lopez
Disconnect the siren or de-pin it from the harness temporarily after taking a picture where it goes. Pull a fuse or relay for the horn (in the owners manual).
desert islander 
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Posted: December 31, 2024 at 4:03 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote desert islander
I disabled the horn and siren and tried to start the vehicle with the key. I tested the starter kill and the car did not start.
Assuming it is okay now to connect the relay for the RS starter to car side only and leave the green and purple wires connected, is that correct?
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