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Older Compustar Remote Start, Unknown Fob Type/Number


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justsomerando 
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Posted: March 13, 2025 at 8:40 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
Hi, I'm new to the whole remote start field and am just genuinely a little confused. I bought this vehicle used (2001, Dodge, Grand Caravan, 3.3L V6, sport) and it apparently has remote start in it. Unfortunately I was not told this by the previous owner, nor was I given some sort of fob for it, just the factory key and fob. And I've tried the lock it 3-4 times in a couple seconds thing but it does nothing. I plan on confronting the previous owner about this, but in the meantime I've tried searching for a possible replacement fob, but from what I could find, my model was discontinued a long time ago and I'm not entirely sure what remotes/fobs are even compatible with my antenna. So I'm just wondering if there is anyone with any advice or suggestions other than just buying a whole new system. The images attached are the "Brain" under the steering wheel, and the antenna at the top of the windshield behind the rearview mirror. (If the images appear very large I apologize, not sure why they're like that) If I am missing any crucial information or anything is amiss, please let me know so I may provide it! Thank you for your time.
Older Compustar Remote Start, Unknown Fob Type/Number -- posted image. Older Compustar Remote Start, Unknown Fob Type/Number -- posted image.
Please be patient with me, I'm still learning things
justsomerando 
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Posted: March 13, 2025 at 10:53 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
And to clarify, I'm trying to figure out what fobs are compatible with my antenna, or what antennas are compatible with my model of Compustar remote start. Or just any general advice one the subject.
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Posted: March 14, 2025 at 7:46 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
The CM4200 controller is definitely an older system. It has only the Blue 4 Pin antenna plug. The antenna is for a long range 2 way remote that was pretty expensive. I used to have a chart that listed the remote to antenna compatibility but have misplaced it. Finding a working remote for that model antenna might be a challenge. Another thing to verify is if this system is actually a Remote Starter or just an Alarm system. Back in the day they had separate models, CM4200, CM4200S, CM4200A, CM4200AS, etc. Check your system for an 8 pin plug with wires going to the cars ignition wires. Think the CM4200 A-V.05D was a remote starter system with alarm functions. If your van has transponder chipped keys, you should find a bypass module under the dash, too.
A few suggestions...
1, Call Compustar (or a local dealer) to determine what remotes will work with that system/antenna. Compustar - Toll-Free: 888-820-3690
2. If you don't need the 1 mile range and/or the 2 way feedback you could go to a current antenna kit. Being as you aren't sure the system still works you could go with a base AM 1 way remote kit for about $45 to try things out first. Pretty sure this remote/antenna kit will work with the CM4200 : Compustar Prime RF-1WG15-AP 1-Way 1500-FT Remote Upgrade Kit
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Posted: March 14, 2025 at 11:38 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
Ok, I did talk to my local Compustar dealer and they don't do anything with discontinued models they said. I asked them about a list of fobs that would work with it, but they said they didn't even have that anymore, so their no help. And my keys are not chipped and I'm pretty sure their isn't a bypass module as well, but there is the big 8 wire plug you mentioned, here's a picture of it, as well as a picture of the back diagram and where it plugs into. Haven't looked into the new antenna yet though. Older Compustar Remote Start, Unknown Fob Type/Number -- posted image. Older Compustar Remote Start, Unknown Fob Type/Number -- posted image. Older Compustar Remote Start, Unknown Fob Type/Number -- posted image.
justsomerando 
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Posted: March 14, 2025 at 7:07 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
Ok so 2 things, first, I tried looking up that antenna upgrade kit you mentioned, but haven't had much luck, if you could link it that would be awesome. Second, I tried doing a little research for the compatible fobs and found this https://www.manualslib.com/products/Compustar-Cm4200-210836.html Not sure which fobs are for my particular antenna/model though, sorry if this doesn't help
justsomerando 
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Posted: March 19, 2025 at 9:52 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
Ok, I was able to find the antenna upgrade kit you mentioned, but my last question for now is are there any antenna upgrade kits that might be compatible with my system that is a 2 way antenna and fob? Or is that one way antenna my only option?
Please be patient with me, I'm still learning things
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Posted: March 19, 2025 at 2:42 PM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
There should be several Antenna/Remote kit options that will work. I still think a call to Compustar is a good idea. They will be able to provide the info you seek.
Being as the current system appears to have had an FM antenna it should accept another, newer style. Something like the Compustar RF-2WG17-FM should work. They go for around $100 and come with one 2-way remote and one 1-way remote that provides up tp 3,000 feet of range.
Of course you really don't know if the CM4200 is a currently viable working system. Unfortunately, the CM4200 unit does not have a Trigger Start Input wire like the newer Compustar systems that you could test with. Another way to partially test the CM4200 is to try to get it to go into Remote Programming Mode. That would test to see if the CM4200 has power,is monitoring the cars Ignition wire and can control the Parking Lights. Just cycle the ignition switch from OFF to RUN five time within 7 seconds. The Parking Lights should flash once. It will time out after 20 seconds or so.
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justsomerando 
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Posted: March 20, 2025 at 8:53 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
Ok, I tested the key programing mode and it flashed the lights, I'm assuming this is a good sign. I will look into calling Compustar and getting a new antenna, tysm for your help!
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Posted: March 20, 2025 at 9:47 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote kreg357
Getting into remote Programming Mode is a good sign. The CM4200 has power, is connected to the vans' main Ignition wire and can control the Parking Lights.
I'm thinking that most current 4 Pin antenna's and their remotes will work. Just choose one with remotes that suit your needs. Swapping to a new antenna and programming the new remotes is pretty easy.
Enjoy!
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Posted: March 24, 2025 at 9:34 AM / IP Logged Link to Post Post Reply Quote justsomerando
Alright, Thanks again!

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