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padawan 
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Hi, I have a 96 Civic I'm going to be putting an alarm in, I can't for the life of me find a rubber grommet to run the siren wire through firewall to...Also, is there an ideal spot or even anywhere to mount the siren under the hood, everywhere looks too tight or won't have enough clearance to close the hood...Anyone who has put an alarm in a 96 Civic please reply...
Also, where is a good place to ground my alarm ground wire, I know I'm supposed to scrape some metal to get the paint off, and ground it to the chassis somewhere, but I don't want to drill a self-tapping screw into something else...
Another question, where should I run the alarm's antenna, someone told me driver's side pillar, is this correct?
The drivers kick doesn't have any screws, is it just releasing clips, I'm tentative to just start yanking and the kick panel breaks....
Where is a good place to mount the valet override switch in this car, I want it to be really well hidden...
How about the LED, I see a blank piece of plastic on the dash next to the interior lights turn dial, but again, don't wanna drill a hole there and mess something up...
Is it cool to mount the brain of the alarm under the dash with double sided sticky tape?, I mean I can use wire ties if there was somewhere to loop it over...but where?
When you guys install a relay for starter kill, you cut the starter wire in half, which is a much thicker gauge than all the other wires, these starter wires don't fit into butt connectors too well, even the yellow ones, so should I solder to cut ends of the starter wire to my target wires on my pre-wiRED / socketed relay?
I was also told I can find all the wires I need in a green plug behind the radio, does that include door trigger? Since I was on this site, I looked it up, and it's supposed to be Light Green with a Red tracer for (-) door trigger, but I read on these forums, that it's a black wire with a white tracer or even a green wire with a black tracer! Which is correct?
Sorry for all the questions, but I want to get this install right the 1st time, not like my horrendous install on a 97 cavalier :)...so it would be great if someone who has installed an alarm on this car try to help me with answers, everybody else add your input too, thanx for the time.
padawan 
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Posted: June 17, 2003 at 8:09 AM / IP Logged  
Please help.
padawan 
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Posted: June 17, 2003 at 8:41 PM / IP Logged  
Come on guys, I know somebody gotta know some of these questions, alarm arrives tomorrow, would like to hurry up and install it due to all the stolen cars the last week in my apt. complex...Thanx.
Mr.Swifty 
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Posted: June 18, 2003 at 11:18 AM / IP Logged  

Also, where is a good place to ground my alarm ground wire, I know I'm supposed to scrape some metal to get the paint off, and ground it to the chassis somewhere, but I don't want to drill a self-tapping screw into something else...

There is a factory grounding bolt in the drivers kick panel if youre scared to drill into anything....should be a 10mm bolt with lots of other black wires comming out of it

Another question, where should I run the alarm's antenna, someone told me driver's side pillar, is this correct?

Running the antenna up the drivers side pillar will be fine.

Where is a good place to mount the valet override switch in this car, I want it to be really well hidden...

Try behind the hood relese lever in the kick panel...but make the switch turn on from left to right instead of up and down. that way you dont put the car into valet by opening the hood

How about the LED, I see a blank piece of plastic on the dash next to the interior lights turn dial, but again, don't wanna drill a hole there and mess something up...

Any factory dash blank is a good place....but just pop it out before you start drilling, that way you dont drill into anything behind it......I usually put the LED on the top of the steering column plastic cover...it is more visable from either side there

Is it cool to mount the brain of the alarm under the dash with double sided sticky tape?, I mean I can use wire ties if there was somewhere to loop it over...but where?

Mount the brain under the dash, and use wire ties to attach it to the factory wire harnesses under there.....with double sided tape it will probably just fall down with time

When you guys install a relay for starter kill, you cut the starter wire in half, which is a much thicker gauge than all the other wires, these starter wires don't fit into butt connectors too well, even the yellow ones, so should I solder to cut ends of the starter wire to my target wires on my pre-wiRED / socketed relay?

Your starter wire should be the BLACK/ White wire, in the main harness.....and it should accept a yellow butt with no problem....you can usually get away with a blue one there....the wire should slip with ease into a yellow butt...if it doesnt, you need to strip the wire cleaner...I mean with out fraying the wire...and twist it before you put it into the butt connecter.

I was also told I can find all the wires I need in a green plug behind the radio, does that include door trigger? Since I was on this site, I looked it up, and it's supposed to be Light Green with a Red tracer for (-) door trigger, but I read on these forums, that it's a black wire with a white tracer or even a green wire with a black tracer! Which is correct?

Well first rule of thumb....is to always check your wires with a DMM.....to determine your wire color...pull a pin switch out of the door jamb, and check the color there.....but with Civic it's usually GREEN/ red....as for the green plug...it should be behind the radio, and you can get prettymuch all of your wires from there.

Good Luck

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Posted: June 18, 2003 at 11:23 AM / IP Logged  
Alright first there is a grommet on the drivers side firewall by the brake booster, the valet button can go underneath the hood release handle, the led can go in the any of the blank pop-outs, antenna(if extended range ant) will work good if you run it up the a-pillar and out to the windsheild, you probably will break the clip in the kick panel, for starter kill you will have to cut the starter wire and it will fit into a yellow butt connector(just twist the wire and push it into it), both door trigger wire you list are correct but there are two different versions of your car(basically high end and low end, if you have a lx or ex then it is going to be the lt. GREEN/ red). I happen to own a 98 civic ex and everthing is under the dash and you don't need to go to the radio.
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padawan 
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Posted: June 18, 2003 at 1:46 PM / IP Logged  
Thanx for all the replies guys....
BTW my Civic is a 96 DX, basic, no power anything...so Light Green with Red is my door trigger wire I presume.
Mr.Swifty 
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Posted: June 18, 2003 at 5:57 PM / IP Logged  

padawan wrote:
Thanx for all the replies guys....
BTW my Civic is a 96 DX, basic, no power anything...so Light Green with Red is my door trigger wire I presume.

Never.....Never Assume anything....always check with a DMM (digital Multi Meter)

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Wow, someone else who shares my philosophy. Assumption is the mother of all F-ups.
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padawan 
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Posted: June 18, 2003 at 10:19 PM / IP Logged  
So i probe the wire i think it is, if when the door is shut it shows me 12V, then it's a negative door trigger wire right right?
If it were to show ground on shut door it would be positive trigger right?
pitcrew_6 
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Posted: June 18, 2003 at 11:01 PM / IP Logged  

i put a couple of alarms in 96 hondas

i ran the siren wire through where the hood release went through the fire wall

and mounted the siren beside the headlight assembly on the drivers side

solder your connections for the starter disable

if you have the coin tray on the drivers side mount your valet switch inside it

brent

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