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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 11:31 AM / IP Logged

Focusedonsound- Most remote starters for manual transmissions now require that procedure.They also require a hood pin switch so the car can't start with the hood open. So your right, it would be just about impossible to leave the car in gear and set it for remote starting.

When i posted above i was talking above and beyond that basic saftey measure.Some dealers simply refuse to install remotes in manual transmission cars because of liability issues. The appearence of nuetral sense wires could eventually put them more at ease.

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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 1:12 PM / IP Logged

ok... Being that I am obviously a newbie at all of this please fill me in...on ways to make this safer. or how I like to put it... Stupid proof. no offense to anyone on here.

For example I have a 2000 Ford Mustang GT Convertible. Normally to start the car its necessary to step on the clutch to start. I don't know what other things are going on with the car durring that process.

What might you recomend I do to add to my install to bring it to the safest level.

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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 1:35 PM / IP Logged

What might you recomend I do to add to my install to bring it to the safest level.

Buy a remote starter that is designed for a manual transmission vehicle.

Jeff

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Focusedonsound

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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 1:49 PM / IP Logged

"Buy a remote starter that is designed for a manual transmission vehicle."

Well now thats an obvious answer! ... I almost can't beleive that came from a moderator.

Again in case someone missed what I said earlyier.

I am looking at the Design Tech International Airwolf. (Designed For MANUAL TRANSMISSIONS)

However I see people talking about making it 100% fool proof and no room for human error. I seep people talking about all kinds of sensors and such ... What is my best bet to go with ...

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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 1:57 PM / IP Logged

Hey Focusedonsound, the obvious answer is to get the manual safe remote starter. I wasn't trying to be a smart ass or anthing. Try to " rig up " a safety feature for a remote starter that is not designed for a manual transmission vehicle is an accident waiting to happen. If you purchase a manual safe remote starter, then I would say, that is all you would need to do to make it safe. Some vehicles have a nuetral safety wire and you can wire this into the clutch bypass so that if the wire doesn't see (-) then it will not engage the clutch. I did this on Mazda's and it worked like a charm.

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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 2:06 PM / IP Logged

Hey Jeff, sorry for taking it that way ... it has just been one of those days. And I don't mean to snap back at you.

I understand what you are saying that a unit specificly designed for Manual trans is secure.

How would I know or find out if my car (2000 Ford Mustang GT) has this so called Neutral Safty wire? And if my car doesn't have this is there something else that can be done?

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Posted: December 12, 2003 at 4:34 PM / IP Logged

Focusedonsound. As long as the remote is advertised for a manual transmission than you will be ok. They are safe enough. The neutral sense wire is something extra and can only be used if the car has one. Only a few of the newer car models do (Subaru/Mazda). The only way to know for sure is to get a wiring diagram of your involved. These wires will not be listed on most web sites which offer diagrams for installing remotes.

But again this is not necessary for safe operation.

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Posted: December 13, 2003 at 1:01 AM / IP Logged

Seeing that the Ford Mustang is essential a Mazda ( don't hit me too hard for saying that Remote Start for Manual? - Page 2 -- posted image.

) the car does have a nuetral safety wire. It's a WHITE/ PINK wire found in the ignition harness and is a (-) trigger. If the car is in nuetral, this wire will have a (-) on it. If it's in gear, the wire will register a 6-8 volt current ( maybe higher on the Mustang ).

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Posted: December 13, 2003 at 9:05 AM / IP Logged

Jeff,

Thanks for that info. You are just full of amazing information. and yes if you were a arms length away you would have gotten a hit from me for the Mustang Mazda comment.

My brother is a Ford Tech however that doesn't make him the expert and sometimes getting information out of him is worse than pulling teath. Any which way ... as a Typical Tech and being that he is my Mechanic (You can't beat having a personal mechanic) he was extreamly weary on this whole topic.. for obvious reasons.

So now lets get back to this Neutral Safty wire. Now that I know that I have it ...(which I understand to be a good thing) How do I intigrate it to make it work for me. I guess Assentially what part of this whole system do I want to attach it to.

P.S Thanks again for your help. This website/ forum the whole 9 is a do it yourselfers dream. Absolutly awesome. .... Thanks Nick !

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Hey Nick, please email me at techsupport@velocitymotorsport.com and I will send you a diagram of what I did with the Mazda Miata's safety relay.

Jeff

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