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97 Ram 1500 sport Door Lock Problems


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blackram 
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I ahve installed a ungo rs 151 remote start and keyless entry.  Everything seems to work great except I can not get the locks to work.  I don't know if i need relays or what.  I have a 3 wire positive setup, the alarm can do both.  I also have factory keyless.  Any help would be great .....       Thank you!!!
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we need to know what kind of car...............
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blackram 
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Sorry, forgot to mention.  97 Dodge Ram 1500 sport.  I have tried it both ways on the alarm  +/-  and neither will work.  Thanks
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It sounds like you are going to need some relays... I'm assuming the remote starter you are installing does not have "on-board" relays built in.

"LOCK"/ Connect Lock Wire from RS to Pin 85 of Relay: Connect +12V to Pins 86 & 87 of Relay: Connect Pin 30 to Vehicle Lock Wire

"UNLOCK"/ Connect Unlock Wire from RS to Pin 85 of Relay: Connect +12V to Pins 86 & 87 of Relay: Connect Pin 30 to Vehicle  UnLock Wire.

Hope this Helps & good luck.

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I Forgot to mention in the previous reply that you need to program you RS to a (-) output for the Lock and Unlock wires from the RS module.
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Thanks I will give it a try tonight.
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Disregard the above advice from sheetrock, that system is revese polarity. Negative lock pulse from r/s to 85 on relay, 87 & 86 to 10 amp fused 12 volt source, 87a to switch side of factory locks and 30 to motor side of locks. Then negative unlock pulse to 85 on other relay, 87 & 86 to 10 amp fused 12 volt, 87a to switch side of factory doorlocks and 30 to motor side. The factory doorlock wires are org/violet and pink/violet in drivers kick.

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Positive trigger ( use this diagram to convert the (-) to a (+) ) on models with factory keyless entry, and 5 wire on all other models. MUST USE RELAYS for both (+) trigger and type C.
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I am very confused, maybe someone can explain to me why the alarm wont drive it , because it does both positive and negative.  I can drive the locks where i hooked in by giving it power from the 12v constant connections.   Is the alarm output  not high enough?  Also the relay i have is 30 amp SPST, will this work.  Sorry for all the ?'s first time on an alarm.  Thank you for all of your help.
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Some units will not have enough current ( -) or (+) to actuate some high current systems like the Dodge uses. The SPST relays will not work , you will need SPDT 30/40 amp relays for the system to work properly.
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